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Gold/Mining/Energy : International Precious Metals (IPMCF) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (27467)	11/18/1997 5:42:00 PM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 35569

Not sure. Maybe its all smoke and mirrors. Perhaps Japanese sent the instructions to building the bomb. Exploded one in Hiroshima to demonstrate their willingness to sacrifice and got concessions on car sales, radio, TV's and Karaoke music, the Americans had to allow a garrison be held captive there to protect the island and for hostages. What kind of car do you drive? sayonara.

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (27467)	11/19/1997 2:49:00 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 35569

Aces Kills Ace Nation Notes 23 Yevgeny Pepelyaev Soviet Union * 23 Nick Sutyagin Soviet Union * 16.5 Royal N. Baker United States 3.5 kills WW II 16 Joseph McConnell United States 15 James Jabara United States 1.5 kills WW II 14.5 Manuel J. Fernandez United States 14 George Davis Jr. United States 21 kills WW II 12 Alexander Smortzkov Soviet Union * 10+ A. Boytzow Soviet Union * 10+ G. Ges Soviet Union * 10+ G. Ohay Soviet Union * 10+ D. Oskin Soviet Union * 10+ G. Pulov Soviet Union * 10+ D. Samaoylov Soviet Union * 10+ S. Veshnyakov Soviet Union * 10 Vermont Garrison United States 17.3 kills WW II 10 James Johnson United States 1 kill WW II 10 Frederick Blesse United States 10 Harold E. Fischer United States 10 Lonnie R. Moore United States 10 Ralph S. Parr Jr. United States 9 Cecil G. Foster United States 9 Anatoly Karelin Soviet Union * 9 James F. Low United States 9 Mikhail Mihin Soviet Union * 8 George L. Ruddell United States 8 Robinson Wisner United States 7 Clifford D. Jolley United States 6.5 Francis Gabreski United States 28 kills WW II 6.5 Donald E. Adams United States 6.5 George L. Jones United States 6.5 Winton W. Marshall United States 6 Nikolay Ivanov Soviet Union * 6 James H. Kasler United States 5 Guy Bordelon United States 5 Robert P. Baldwin United States 5 Richard S. Becker United States 5 Stephen L. Bettinger United States 5 John F. Bolt United States 5 Guy P. Bordelon United States 5 Clyde A. Curtin United States 5 Ralph D. Gibson United States 5 Ivan C. Kinchloe United States 5 Robert T. Latshaw United States 5 Robert H. Moore United States 5 Dolphin D. Overton,III United States 5 Nikolay Shkodin Soviet Union * 5 William H. Wescott United States 5 Guy Bordelon United States ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Russia 157+ * Glorious Heroes Yanks 279 This is what the aces shot down in actual fact. All else is ground fire. It should be noted that the Russians only got credit for wreckage that was found whereas Americans got credit for unconfirmed kills that do not tally with Russian records. Americans also got credit for unarmed transport aircraft, planes on the ground and barrage balloons. So it was not 792 to 71 in the American's favour. Add in what native North Koreans shot down and Ground fire (heavy US losses) and it tips in the North's favour. Now you know the real reason for the DMZ in Korea. the yanks did not just get beat on the ground as MacArthur admitted, but also in the air. They could not push them back so they mined the middle (from the air) and quit. It jibes with what ground soldiers told me about the battle too as they said it was touch and go all the way. We had superior artillery and armament but we just could not secure positions with limited manpower. Or continue to take impregnable hills. Next, Vietnam. Why the lost that one too. Fair and square. Not politically as we were told. Our planes were being shot to pieces by Soviet radar and we could not prosecute incursions into the north. --------------------------------------------------------------------

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (27467)	11/19/1997 4:25:00 AM
From: Graystone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 35569

Scissors Scissors do good work when decisions need to be made in cyberspace. I never know who to believe here on SI either so what I do is read and reread. I have this dream some day, that by investing in mining and exploration companies carefully I can become rich, or at least get to spend some of my hard earned "paper gains" someday. The sky ain't clear here yet, if you read and reread you can see a few of the larger predators are beginning to notice that this is a real rout and some BIG SHOALS are forming up. Good thing for some, could be danger for others. I've noticed some posters telling us the numbers were small compared to what THEY personally held early Monday when the feeding began. I guess if I owned a big chunk of a company, I would be wondering what to do now more than ever. The best thing about scissors are thier facility as a tool. Obviously you can't follow every poster on SI but you can go look at people who have had a "change of hert" over this matter. Find them yourselves, they are there. Now obviously each one of them has come to realization that for one reason or another they are changing there long term objectives with IPMCF, the food is (good), the feeding ground is just too dangerous. Most posters who go and do some due diligence on any subject can find the truth for themselves. Scissors cutting implies pieces, how large they are and where the pieces end up can be determined only by the person wielding the scissors. What is happening at IPMCF is just that. The pieces will come down and you will be in one place or another. Very few of you, regardless of size will have a lot of say in the matter. some of you, of course, are wielding the scissors. "Vieled" references will be the best determinants in who is playing what game. The game I am playing is of course, Paper Rock Scissors. I don't think we have seen everything yet. I expect that there will be very few statements forthcoming. How long do you ask questions in any empty room, do they make any sound when they fall. Remember what I said in Rock, We don't have to look to hard to see demarcation lines and know the (outline)agenda of a company, person or thing. I am not a Charters cheerleader, but I am not exactly a cheerleader of any type. I need only to remind you that if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, due a little of your own due diligence before shooting it and skinning it to find out that it is indeed a duck. A Recipe for Wild Duck From Mrs. Sharp "A Canadian Hunters Handbook" This recipe will require several wild ducks. Break the skin open at the base of the ducks neck on the breast side, this will allow the skin to be peeled back exposing the breast of the duck. Take a sharp boning knife and remove the breast meat in two separate pieces. Soak the breast meat in heavily salted water overnight, changing the water several times. Heat a skillet with a small amount of canola oil and sear the duck breasts. Add a generous dollop of butter and two or three sliced(1/4") onions. Saute the onions until brown. Add the seared duck breasts and enough half/half milk/cream to cover. Whipping cream may also be used. Cook over very low heat for 3-4 hours uncovering for the last hour to reduce the cream to sauce. Serve with mashed potatoes and a vegetable. Mr Jackson, I believe E may fly any plane he wishes.