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To: Paul Smith who wrote (25)8/29/2011 11:24:45 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
I'm sure Perry takes his religion seriously, but if he was some kind of theocrat he wouldn't have been a backer of Guilani while he was in the 2008 race.

As for science, it's a liberal conceit that liberals have some kind of special affinity for science. The opinions of people like Bill Maher, who doesn't accept the germ theory of disease, and Joy Behar, who thinks global warming causes earthquakes, to the contrary.



To: Paul Smith who wrote (25)8/29/2011 11:42:57 AM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 85487
 
<<<<I don't think we know much about Perry yet>>>>

How can you say that? He has been governor and written books - we have more information on him than perhaps any other serious nomination. You say you doubt he will bring his religion into politics - to which I say bull. You are certainly free to your own beliefs - and so am I. I would dearly love to vote for a republican but every one seems to be tied at the neck to the religious right. Not religion - which few have a problem with - but religion of the type makes them say that they are running because "God told them to". If you believe God told you to run, God can tell you to do anything. From Wikepdia on Perry;

Perry has called himself "a firm believer in intelligent design as a matter of faith and intellect", and has expressed support for its teaching alongside evolution in Texas schools but also that "educators and local school officials, not the governor, should determine science curriculum." [92] When asked about evolution, Perry responded: "Well, God is how we got here. God may have done it in the blink of the eye or he may have done it over this long period of time, I don't know. But I know how it got started."



To: Paul Smith who wrote (25)8/29/2011 7:55:07 PM
From: Nadine Carroll4 Recommendations  Respond to of 85487
 
Obviously some people were upset about Obama's religous experiences during the last campaign and now it doesn't appear to be much of a concern.

I would disagree with that. First, all that most people ever heard about Obama's "wacky pastor" (Jon Stewart's description) was his Great Race Speech, which diverted attention from the pastor to Race in America and was promptly hailed by the press as the greatest speech since the Gettysburg Address -- although it became inoperative a mere six weeks later when the wacky pastor gave an overtly racist speech at the National Press Club and Obama was forced to dump him anyway.

Second, I would describe most of Obama's religious experiences as political experiences of the Marxist variety. He absolutely does not sound like a believer to me, or I believe, to most Americans.

The depth of his Marxist outlook on the economy is a big concern to a lot of people, and the more he repeats rhetoric about "millionaires and billionaires" and "pay their fair share" and "spread the wealth" and "at some point, you've earned enough" and "spending in the tax code" (= deductions), the more people get concerned. This is class warfare stuff to shore up the progressive base. But pollsters are reporting that 2/3 of the independents are now rolling Republican this cycle. I believe the far left rhetoric is at least part of the reason why.