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Technology Stocks : Y2K (Year 2000) Stocks: An Investment Discussion -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: C.K. Houston who wrote (7954)	11/18/1997 9:49:00 PM
From: Mike Healy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13949

Cheryl, Im not sure you understood my origninal question, but I thank you for your response nonetheless. I was not suggesting that companies without a disaster recovery contract sign up for one for the sole purpose of doing a Y2K simulation on their UNREMEDIATED code. THAT, I agree, would be a REAL waste of money. THAT, however, was not what I suggested. Many many companies (including European manufacturers, small banks, ignorant telecoms) already have disaster recovery contracts in place with Comdisco, et al. at Recovery Sites that are not yet fully utilized in Y2K testing efforts. I would like to see Gartner team up with Comdisco, with Federal funding, to run Y2K simulations on the complete UNREMEDIATED systems of a small sample of companies in various industries (and obviously only companies with all their data and code onsite at the disaster recovery center -- to save time). Gartner would then assess the damage (ie. number of failed applications, degree of corrupted data, etc.) and publish the results. This would be the empirical data that might help to shut up all the Y2K skeptics while creating a greater sense of urgency in the lagging companies and governments. As I suspect you know, disaster recovery drills are going on all the time (just to make sure that Comdisco can recover some bank in the event its data center floods). These periodic drills are the real waste of time and money when they could be put to much better use by inserting Y2K dates and publishing the results... Most of us know intuitively that such a drill will demonstrate massive problems in existing applications....but I bet we would all like to see some actual results if it would help the cause. I will not bother this thread further with this idea. Cheryl, I took no offense at your flip answer (Im prone to flippant reponses myself). Thanks Michal for the pointers to simulation leads. Thinking Machine's simulations seems interesting but not really 'empirical'. The other leads seem anecdotal in nature. I will send E-Mails to Comdisco and SunGuard to see if they have hijacked any of their recovery drills to play with Y2K dates....will post response.

To: C.K. Houston who wrote (7954)	11/22/1997 11:13:00 PM
From: John A. Keyes	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13949

Clinton is briefed on EMU & Y2K. Howard Ruben apparently briefed Clinton on a "confidential" report authored by Capers Jones. I wrote Capers to learn what could be confidential at this late stage of the game. Its been no secret to all of us that we're in deep trouble. The article appeared in Computer Weekly on November 23. You can find it on Peter's clippings page. Hi Cheryl. Thanks for letting me use your name for my message. "Tony" John Athony Keyes