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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (156789)	9/11/2011 11:22:05 AM
From: GST	39 Recommendations Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 206097

<why is it the left is so enthusiastic over AGW and right is not?> What a great question. While you are answering it, please let me know why so many on the 'right' continue to view evolution as an unproven "theory". In my view, the strength of the 'right' comes from a core base of people who are generally: 1. Scientifically ignorant. 2. More likely to adopt a literal interpretation of the bible. 3. View the rest of the world as lesser than the US. 4. View the rest of the world as needing to be taught how to be good Christians. 5. View endless US military spending on endless wars as the one and only best means to dominate the rest of the world and teach others what to think and how to behave as god-given mission. 6. And last but not least, the 'right' views themselves as having endless rights and zero responsibilities. The right is not for small government -- the right is for very large, militaristic Christian government. The right is for sticking future generations with unthinkable bills for the current cost of failed attempts at global military domination. The 'left' is preoccupied with social issues that they believe can be approached with a shared sense of purpose and some level of shared expense and sacrifice. The right is firmly against any personal sacrifice based on ideas that might undermine the ideology of their 'base' -- the centrality of the male-dominated family and the church. The right is against AGW because it draws attention and resources away from immediate personal consumption.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (156789)	9/11/2011 2:14:22 PM
From: Asymmetric	15 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206097

To be honest - not sure why I'm responding, as we both know you're really asking a political question under the guise of a pseudo-scientific cloaking. There are over 100 different global climate models used by the various scientific disciplines. The oceanographers have their climate model, the atmospheric chemists have theirs, the physicists have theirs, hydrology scientists have one, planetary scientists theirs, and on and on. Because global climate is quite complex, they construct their models based on a foundation of the factors that are the most important to them in their field of research, and hence all these models have have their different strengths and different weakness. But while all the models forecast better some phenomenon over others, say cloud formation due to ocean temperatures, and not so well effects of solar cosmic rays on cloud formation, what is most striking is they all are in more or less agreement that the earth is warming, and that anthropomorphic sources are the cause. . It's as simple as that. Framing the issue as big vs small government? Wow. Maybe they can make that a workshop at the next US Academy of Science meeting. - A.