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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Paul V. who wrote (112592)9/10/2011 11:08:17 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224748
 
you make criminal behavior sound so noble



To: Paul V. who wrote (112592)9/10/2011 11:59:19 PM
From: grusum3 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224748
 
You are correct - they[people with financial resources] can use their immense money and position power to impose their will on others.

like soros, right? fortunately, there are few that are as evil as him. but, do you know where he gets his power? he get's power by buying corrupt government. do you know how government becomes corrupt? it gets corrupt by having too much power. it's not his money that's evil. it's him and corrupt government that's evil.

A friend of mine who completed his dissertation on leadership styles of administrators found that over 80% of administrators were autocrats regarding their leadership style rather than a more participatory style of leader.

so what? we're talking about unions, not their leaders.

From my experiences I learned in working with individuals the effective leader is one who provides leadership along with his employees/individuals using the employees personal skills to help the employees succeed and the organization succeed. There is no better feeling that seeing individuals succeed and become more confident in themselves and the organization.

organizations diminish individuals.

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But, how many of us have worked for some individual administrator has used his/her position power to intimidate others verbally. I am sure no one on this site has ever encounter such a person. :)!!! Community organizers learn this very quickly - the organizer must stay within the realm of experience of the individuals he is organizing and outside the experiences of the enemy (opposition). The organizer is only as strong as the people and their "buy in" to the cause. The large the masses of people the greater the power and media coverage, ie. Michigan

you still haven't told me why you think union power is such a good thing.

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Again, we have the TEA PARTY carrying firearms!!!

and everybody there was safer because of the few who did.

My fear was if that situation would have escalated.

it's an unjustifiable fear. few criminals want to pull out their guns when there are other people who have guns too.

A saying learned of individuals living in the cities, "If a individual picks up a brickbat or bat, if the person picks up a brick then the individual picks up a knife, if the person picks up a knife the the individual picks up a gun." Therefore, carrying a firearm innocently or knowingly was escalating the situation. When, this occurs with the masses mobs and loss of control can occur.

when the masses or mobs know that everybody is armed they will show a lot more control. you should see how polite everyone is at gun shows and gun stores. you'll never be safer than at those places, because if a crazy pulls out a gun and starts shooting, he'll be dead very quickly. and from many angles.

As indicated above position power is very common today in the work place and other situations. "Those who have the gold make the rules." Most individuals do not have the luxury, financial independence to fire their boss, especially in today economic environment.

of course they don't have that right. why should they?? what's the use in having a boss if the employees can fire him? what are you talking about?

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It is not what is right or wrong, it is what is perceived as right of wrong, in the "eye of the beholder." In a dispute, whether it is: a divorce, a war with another country, a labor or other dispute (informational picking, petitioning your government, strikes, etc.) it normally is to establish our position as 100% right and the enemy as 100% wrong. One side projects the position of motherhood, apple pie, the American flag and god, while the enemy is evil and anti motherhood, apple pie, the American flag and god. In politics, it is not the candidate who is packaged with his views, but, the public, voter who has their own bias. The politician is only to evoke the bias of the voters so that they will vote for them, the candidate. Voter manipulation - YES!!!

can somebody out there help me with what this paragraph means?

Just think of the tone of Rush Limbaugh, Hannity's tone and even the various Presidents when the parties are manipulating the public thorough the media. All tactics are used to manipulate the public and voters. That is the purpose of campaign candidate discovery, discovery polling, marketing tactics, polling and media presentations.

only stupid people allow themselves to be manipulated. the answer is to educate themselves so they won't be fooled by anyone.

Not really, the issues is what, IMO, should influence the voter - the issues is what determines how I vote.

how is this an answer to "the very essence of unions seems evil to me"??