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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 12:07:25 PM
From: longnshort5 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224756
 
you libs just can't take personal responsibility, it's always someone else's fault



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 12:09:48 PM
From: tonto3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224756
 
I do too...

the unrealistic expectations and inevitable disenchantment of some of the president’s supporters; and, to be sure, the man himself."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 12:30:53 PM
From: Carolyn3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224756
 
You go right ahead, Kenneth.
Fortunately, the majority of the rest of the country doesn't agree.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 12:34:58 PM
From: lorne4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224756
 
ken...I've said it before and still believe that you are not aware of just how comical you are at times...LOL.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 12:44:52 PM
From: lorne6 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224756
 
ken...IMO hussein obama was elected mostly because of his skin color and the fear of racial problems if he were not elected...Now if he is not re-elected the same fear is in place that being he was not re-elected because of his skin color...obama is IMO promoting racial tensions for the purpose of getting re-elected.

Awful terrible thing to do to America.

He has done nothing to improve America's status in the world but has done much to lower America's status and image in the world.

What a shame...this man could have done so much good for whatever racial problems still exist in America...instead he uses race to further political gains for himself ...and maybe to further alinsky's plans for revolution?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 12:49:38 PM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224756
 
kenny here is some fun stuff for you to ponder. :-)

How Palin could beat Obama now
September 18, 2011
wnd.com


Lots of folks are still wondering whether Sarah Palin is going to jump into the 2012 Republican presidential campaign.

But if she really wants to make history, I have a bigger and better idea for her.

First of all, let's explore her options.


If Sarah Palin ran as a Republican candidate in a crowded field, she might win. Then again, she might not. She would be a late entry. Much of the big money needed to win is already committed. She would add some excitement to the GOP race, but she might not stand out all that much.

Only one Republican is going to get to face off with Barack Obama in 2012, and I can hardly count the number of contenders for that opportunity right now. She'd be a frontrunner for sure, but her tea-party base is already eyeing other candidates.

However, there is something Sarah Palin could do right now that would be truly radical – and, at the very least, bloody Barack Obama so badly he wouldn't have a hope of beating the Republican nominee.

What's that?

Brace yourself for a crazy idea.

Sarah Palin should reregister as a Democrat and announce her intention of seeking the Democratic Party nomination in 2012 over Barack Obama!

Crazy? I told you it was crazy.

But think about it.

How many Republicans nationwide would reregister as Democrats right along with her – temporarily – to support such a bold, unprecedented political move?

How many independents, who might not otherwise participate in primaries at all, would do the same?

How many Democrats, realizing they made a profound mistake in 2008, would vote for Palin?

Yes, with Obama's popularity at an all-time low, she could even win – and rewrite American political history, redefining what the parties stand for at the same time.

Think of the money that would pour into that campaign! Sign me up for the first contribution.

In 2008, Rush Limbaugh came up with the idea of "Operation Chaos" – in which he urged Republicans to vote in the Democratic primaries for Hillary Clinton, to deny Obama an easy victory. It almost worked. Rush's intent was not to make Hillary the beneficiary, but simply to cause enough chaos for Democrats that might lead to an open convention battle and a weakened nominee.

But this wouldn't just be "Operation Chaos 2." The idea would be for Palin to win the Democratic nomination with mostly Republican and independent votes. Personally, I believe most Americans would lose interest in the Republican contest and focus their political money, time and energy on the Palin-Obama race.

Don't tell me about all the problems involved. I know there are obstacles. The party system is rigged to a great extent. Obama controls it. There are many tricks he could play to deny Americans a real opportunity to select the nominee. There would be legal challenges. And, of course, he has lots of money with which to fight.

But a Palin challenge would also divert hundreds of millions of Obama campaign dollars that are being raised for his general election bid. Even if he wins, he loses.

I like Sarah Palin a lot.

I especially like her independent spirit.

She's anti-establishment all the way.

That's why she and she alone could make a challenge like this work.

I'll tell you right now, if Sarah Palin wants my support and my endorsement and my money, she knows what she can do.

What do you think of my crazy plan? Would you support Palin for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2012?

I think it's a sure-fire recipe for saving America by making sure Obama is not even a viable option in the general election. He might be forced to run as a third-party candidate, a write-in or not at all!

Where do you think the tea-party vote would go in the primaries? I would venture to guess that most of it would get behind Palin for the Democratic nomination.

Why do we have to wait until November 2012 to beat Obama?

Somebody with the courage and enterprise of Sarah Palin should start running against him right now – for the Democratic Party nomination.

And what does she have to lose?

Even if her quixotic bid failed, she would be more famous than ever – and positioned to do anything she wants inside politics or out.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 1:11:01 PM
From: longnshort7 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224756
 
Part of President Obama's tax hike speech focused on corporations with the "best lobbyists" ending up getting preferential treatment. Despite his concern with "special interests", President Obama neglected to mention the Solyndra scandal which appears to be rife with favors for the "green jobs" special interest company.

Obama Slams ‘Special Interests’; No Mention Of Solyndra



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 1:34:13 PM
From: TideGlider10 Recommendations  Respond to of 224756
 
Obama is going down because he was a fraud from the beginning. He is just another corrupt politician and adept race monger. Top that off with total incompetence.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 1:36:55 PM
From: joseffy4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224756
 
Why Obama should withdraw
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Steve Chapman September 18, 2011
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-chapman-obama-reelection,0,622512.column

When Ronald Reagan ran for re-election in 1984, his slogan was "Morning in America." For Barack Obama, it's more like midnight in a coal mine.

The sputtering economy is about to stall out, unemployment is high, his jobs program may not pass, foreclosures are rampant and the poor guy can't even sneak a cigarette.

His approval rating is at its lowest level ever. His party just lost two House elections — one in a district it had held for 88 consecutive years. He's staked his future on the jobs bill, which most Americans don't think would work.

The vultures are starting to circle. Former White House spokesman Bill Burton said that unless Obama can rally the Democratic base, which is disillusioned with him, "it's going to be impossible for the president to win." Democratic consultant James Carville had one word of advice for Obama: "Panic."

But there is good news for the president. I checked the Constitution, and he is under no compulsion to run for re-election. He can scrap the campaign, bag the fundraising calls and never watch another Republican debate as long as he's willing to vacate the premises by Jan. 20, 2013.

That might be the sensible thing to do. It's hard for a president to win a second term when unemployment is painfully high. If the economy were in full rebound mode, Obama might win anyway. But it isn't, and it may fall into a second recession — in which case voters will decide his middle name is Hoover, not Hussein. Why not leave of his own volition instead of waiting to get the ax?

It's not as though there is much enticement to stick around. Presidents who win re-election have generally found, wrote John Fortier and Norman Ornstein in their 2007 book, "Second-Term Blues," that "their second terms did not measure up to their first."

Presidential encores are generally a bog of frustration, exhaustion and embarrassment. They are famous for lowest moments rather than finest hours. Richard Nixon was forced to resign in disgrace, Reagan had the Iran-Contra scandal, and Bill Clinton made the unfortunate acquaintance of Monica Lewinsky.

Administration officials get weary after four years and leave in droves. The junior varsity has to be put into service. New ideas are hard to come by.

Someone said that when a man is smitten with a beautiful woman, he should remember that somebody somewhere is tired of her. Likewise, the most inspiring presidents get stale after years of constant overexposure.

In the event he wins, Obama could find himself with Republicans in control of both houses of Congress. Then he will long for the good old days of 2011. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker John Boehner will bound out of bed each day eager to make his life miserable.

Besides avoiding this indignity, Obama might do his party a big favor. In hard times, voters have a powerful urge to punish incumbents. He could slake this thirst by stepping aside and taking the blame. Then someone less reviled could replace him at the top of the ticket.

The ideal candidate would be a figure of stature and ability who can't be blamed for the economy. That person should not be a member of Congress, since it has an even lower approval rating than the president's.

It would also help to be conspicuously associated with prosperity. Given Obama's reputation for being too quick to compromise, a reputation for toughness would be an asset.

If he runs for re-election, Obama may find that the only fate worse than losing is winning. But he might arrange things so it will be Clinton who has the unenviable job of reviving the economy, balancing the budget, getting out of Afghanistan and grappling with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor. Obama, meanwhile, will be on a Hawaiian beach, wrestling the cap off a Corona.

Steve Chapman is a member of the Tribune's editorial board and blogs at chicagotribune.com/chapman



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 3:00:07 PM
From: longnshort4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224756
 
when is the jobs Bill gonna come up for a vote ? Aren't we in a hurry ?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 3:11:32 PM
From: Bald Eagle4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224756
 
Obama LIES:

He promised to close GITMO. He lied.

He promised to try terrorists in civilian courts. He lied.

He promised to meet the leaders of Iran, North Korea and Venezuela. He lied.

He promised to get out of Afghanistan. He lied.

He promised to televise the health care bill discussions on CSPAN. He lied.

He promised to take public campaign financing. He lied.

He promised not to hire lobbyists and signed an executive order immediately on 1/21/09, only to grant massive waivers within 5 days to lobbyists.

He attacked “fat cats” but got in bed with Goldman Sachs, George Kaiser, and hedge funds in the Solyndra, and had the temerity to promote Solyndra with a personal visit in May 2010, while it sought to go public. We voted for Obama because he promised integrity and transparency in government. All he has delivered is corrupt Chicago Machine politics.

Obama promised “Hope and Change.” The only thing he has delivered is misery and despair. Obama has no moral compass. He, like Bush before him promised to unite the country, but he is even more divisive than Bush. His latest “Jobs Act” attacks charitable giving to nonprofits, such as hospitals, the Red Cross, universities, scholarship foundations and food banks. Why attack the nonprofits?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (113220)9/19/2011 3:52:07 PM
From: chartseer2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224756
 
Republican resistance amounting to sabotage; Completely ignores the fact that the Dumasrats controlled congress prior to the muslim indonesian citizen brilliant barry soetoro's election and for the two years after. You seem to imply that for all those years Repulsives controlled congress. You always seem to always ignore the facts. Remember how the Dumasrats controlled both houses of congress and the white house muslim indonesian citizen brilliant barry soetoro said elections have consequences? Aren't these now those consequences he was referring to?