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To: E. Charters who wrote (27643)	11/19/1997 3:39:00 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 35569

A guy I know who was there told me the T34s had much lower ground pressure and could run on mud while the Tigers were confined to the roads. He was impressed, and didn't get out of Siberia until '48, then ended up in Edmonton in the mid-50s. He must have liked the weather.

To: E. Charters who wrote (27643)	11/19/1997 4:29:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 35569

eric; The popular use of a D6 as tank is only effective against spear armed troops. Many 50 caliber A/P MGs will go right through the blade. In addition light rifle fire will gut many accessable parts and stop the thing. You are right about the bofors as a troop suppression gun at medium range. Good to 9-12 miles. Bill

To: E. Charters who wrote (27643)	11/19/1997 8:27:00 PM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 35569

Hi Eric, I couldn't help but reply to something I do know a little about: >>The only thing that stopped the T34 was a tank destroyer. the panther's 88 couldn't penetrate the armour at 1000 yds but the 75 mm Russian gun could get the panther.<< BS.. The germans were superior at long range. I'm not sure 1000 yards qualifies. The panther had a very long 75, not an 88. The tiger 1 had a shorter 88 and the Tiger 2 longer. The Jagdpanther had the Tiger 2's 88. >> The Germans went to mobile guns by the end of the war. higher crew survival.<< Cheaper. Turreted AFVs are more expensive than turretless. Turretless open-topped are the cheapest. The Czech 38t chassis was perfect for the Marder and Wespe. >> All artillery was radar controlled by 1945 anyway.<< I don't believe this either. Whose artillery was all radar controlled in '45? The US?... maybe. Certainly not the Russians. You know, I've ignored your posts when you've gone on and on about geology, using words I never even knew existed. Now I can see that, at least in the case of 2nd world war AFVs and artillery, you're a bit off. When you miss on something like this, it throws everything else you say - the stuff I gloss over because it looks like hifalutin mining talk - into disrepute. I must say that rather than dislike, toward you I feel amusement. You certainly have livened up this thread. In any event you come across as a big "hack..." but a sometimes funny one. FWIW Andy