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To: koan who wrote (174910)10/30/2011 3:44:01 PM
From: Mary Cluney  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541345
 
<<< I am a liberal first, a democrat second and an Obama supporter third. >>>

I agree that your politics should follow your philosophy. At Oxford University one of their most rigorous and important majors is PP&E (politics, philosophy, and economics). 26 British Prime Ministers graduated from Oxford including Cameron, Blair, Thatcher, Heath, McMillan, Attlee, Gladstone, and 19 others graduated with degrees (or as they like to say read) in PP&E.

To a certain degree the British are more sophisticated in their politics than we are. Before I get too far afield, what I want to point out is that even though politics, philosopy, and economics are very much related, they are also separate. If you are going into politics, you can't be a pure philosopher or a pure economist. You have to be also somewhat a mathematician by nature. You have to do some internal regression analysis and find the sweet spot where your philosophy, politics, and economic theories meld.

IMO Obama is more sophisticated by nature than the pure philosopher or pure economist. He is certainly not a political whore.

If you go back on this thread to when Obama first appeared, I was not a fan. I voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Primaries - but now I am a big time Obama supporter. I still like Hillary. I hope she runs in 2016. I have said from the beginning, it will take more than 8 years to straighten out this mess Bush made. I was hoping we could have Hillary and Obama Presidencies back to back.

IMO this Obama bashing is not only wrong on the merits but it is extremely harmful to the well being of our country.



To: koan who wrote (174910)11/1/2011 2:30:28 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541345
 
MSNBC's Chris Matthews: Obama Will Lose If He's Not More Kennedy-esque

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/31/idUS216141549120111031