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To: skinowski who wrote (463132)	1/3/2012 1:22:52 PM
From: goldworldnet	8 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794534

Everyone deals with death and finds closure in their own way and what the Santorum's did was unusual to say the least, but Karen Santorum did manage to win over 8 of 10 reviewers at Amazon with her tribute book. Also it's almost certain that this idea was Mrs. Santorum's and obviously it would be very difficult for a family to deny a bereaved mother her closure. The link below is for the reviews of "Letters to Gabriel." amazon.com * * *

To: skinowski who wrote (463132)	1/3/2012 3:47:12 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 794534

skinowski....I keep thinking about that Santorum situation. His wife is a neo-natal nurse. That, plus something in their family background must be the reason for taking the dead baby home with them. I can't imagine doing that myself. Yes, if they want a funeral for the baby, that's their business. Maybe it's because of all the pioneer women and their histories that I work with, that it doesn't seem all that creepy.....Up till probably the 1930's or 1940's, the dead of the family was laid out in the family home, where people came to pay their last respects. Remember the tales of the Irish Wakes? Sleeping with a dead person, baby or not, is creepy IMO. But sending that person off, and seeing their body, even if their spirit had already flown, isn't at all creepy to me. It's just a fact of life that we all have to face at some time or another.

To: skinowski who wrote (463132)	1/3/2012 5:07:47 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	2 Recommendations Respond to of 794534

yep.... i can't even imagine the traumatizing effect on his other children.... i just cannot understand a RATIONAL human being doing this.... it reminded me of a national geographic of a family of chimpanzees that had a mother whose infant had died and she carried it around for days until she finally gave it up....any woman or man who would put their children through the trauma of dealing with an aborted fetus up close and personal is seriously whacked out deal breaker full stop (and yes there was never a potential deal, but this just seals the NO DEAL , you crazy azz)

To: skinowski who wrote (463132)	1/4/2012 5:00:41 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	11 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794534

There is a cultural divide as to when a baby becomes a person. Most secular people say: at birth, meaning live birth. But religious Catholics like the Santorums (and others) say: at conception. Thus for secular people a baby who miscarries at 20 weeks and lives only 2 hours never quite made the grade, but for the Santorums, he was their son and they wanted time to mourn him, time to introduce the other children to him, time I'm sure to wash him, dress him and take a photo to remember him by. It doesn't strike me as creepy at all, just old-fashioned. It's exactly what a 19th century couple would have done, except in that case, the baby would have been born at home and they would have had to call in the photographer. If you look at many 19th century photographs, you will see that post-mortem pictures of infants and young children are quite common. Of course, it was much more common to lose infants and young children then.