To: TimF who wrote (7058 ) 1/19/2012 12:18:38 AM From: koan Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 85487 Try and follow this! The military industrial complex is comprised of large corporations like Haliburton, Bechtel, flour, Lockheed, etc. They buy presidents and congresspeple with huge campaign contribtions, who then borrow money to hire them to do stuff. That has nothing whatsoever to do with big government. E.g. Bush junior started the war in Iraq hoping to get their oil. He doubled the deficiit from 5 to 10 trillion. He borrowed a bunch of it from China ad the rest from our grand kids. Where did that 5 trillion go. About half went to tax cuts to the rich, and the other half went to corporations like Haliburton who supplanted the military with contractors who cooked hamburgers for the troops at $100 bucks a hamburger. Haliburton was a no bid contract. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton and they gave him a 30 million severence pay when he left to bcome VP. why did they do that do you suppose? Get it. Big government is in there no where. And the there are the big banks that went broke and Bush/Obama gave trillions to recue them. Teh fed gave them 7.7 trillion!!!!!! No big government again, just big power giving our money to corporate power, who gives some of it back to big power! It is all about power and money and nothing about big government. the big government bullshit is what they use to fool you into doing their bidding. It is their mantra to keep you looking the wrong way i.e. not at them stealing you blind. Capiche? koan: "takes a strong government to fight the military industrial complex , oil giants and Wall street lobbyists." <<You understand the contradiction inherent in that statement right? The military industrial complex, at least one that is beyond being very small, is a result of big government. The lobbyists are an indirect result of big government, since government controls so much, they want to influence government. The bigger government is, the more of them there will be, and the more power they will have. As for oil companies the only thing that needs to be fought is any special privileges or restrictions on trade they might extract from government. Big government doesn't battle corruption and power grabbing in corporations, it drives it forward.>>