To: RetiredNow who wrote (108309 ) 1/27/2012 9:33:48 AM From: RetiredNow Respond to of 149317 GDP came in at 2.8% for their first draft estimate. Keep in mind that the first draft of Q3 was 2.5% and ended up only being 1.8%. So if the same revisions get applied to Q4 GDP, then we're only looking at maybe 2.0% GDP growth in reality. Then if you take out the 1.9% for inventory stocking, you're left with no growth. Imagine what will happen in Q1, when they let their inventories wind down! That's very bad and that doesn't keep up with civilian labor force growth, which means the unemployment rate will continue to increase in the coming months. I have been predicting this very thing for 6 months now to the derision of many of you on this thread. Wake up and look at the leading indicators. They are abysmal. Keynesianism as practiced by Obama has failed. ----------------------------Q4 GDP Misses Estimates, Inventory Stockpiling Accounts For 1.9% Of 2.8% Q4 US Economic Growth The US economy grew at a 2.8% annualized pace in the supposedly blistering fourth quarter, yet the number was a disappointment not only in that it missed estimates of 3.0% (and far higher whisper numbers) but when one looks at the components, where a whopping 1.94% of the upside was attributable to a rise in inventories as restocking took place . And as everyone knows in this day and age a spike in inventories only leads to sub-cost dumping a few months later. In other words, the economy grew at a 0.8% pace ex inventories. Yet for all intents and purposes, this is considered "growth." Personal consumption was also weaker than expected coming in at 2.0% on estimates of 2.4%. Perhaps the only silver lining was Core PCE which came at 1.1% on expectations of 0.9%, however as discussed extensively before, this was driven by an unsustainable surge in credit-binge spending, primarily for iStore trinkets, and is hardly sustainable especially as the US Savings Rate fell to 3.7% in the fourth quarter, the lowest since Q4 2007. In other words Joe Sixpack is living large, especially since Joe Sixpack no longer has to pay his mortgage. Unfortunately this is a collision course with every economic principle and the next taxpayer funded bank bailout is only a matter of time. Bottom line: the artificial economic pick up is over and Q1 will see inventories actually detract from GDP: as a reminder Q1 2011 GDP subtracted 1.8% points from the final 0.4% GDP, and that was following only a 0.9% inventory rise in the preceding quarter, Q4 2010. And that is not even mentioning the tight fiscal situation no longer being a benefit to growth. Oh yes, and gas is no longer falling. And not to even mention that the GDP deflator mysteriously imploded from 2.6% to 0.4%: that's odd - not even edible ipads seem to be coming down in price. Which means that using a reslitic deflator would have resulted in virtually no GDP growth. To paraphrase Lester Burnham, "It's all downhill from here." Finally a chart of the GDP Price Index. It just printed the third lowest since 1963.