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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (23120)	2/18/2012 3:42:13 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

If you're sitting there with an ice box and no one to sell you ice, that's not voluntary. Yes it is. Your sitting there is certainly voluntary, as is your possession of an ice box. <g> Seriously though, I know you meant something more like "your not being able to chill your food with out buying a refrigerator is not voluntary", but not having omnipotence isn't the same as being compelled against your will. There is also the minor point that it would still be possible to get ice (even if its at a higher cost and lower convenience) so your example isn't that good. But I don't care much about the example, you could always come up with another one where someone was in a situation they don't like, I care more that the point behind the example is IMO invalid. But I wasn't talking about the government. Which makes the situations totally different. One is an imposition of involuntary action, the other is not. In this case the Obama government is just riding a progressive (small "p") trend. Big p yes, small p, not so much. If I were still clinging to '50's Catholicism, I'd be upset, too. If they can abuse the freedom of the "50's Catholics" they can abuse yours as well. Better to stand with people you might not be fond of, to protect freedom, then to ditch freedom for those you don't agree with. You can still, and presumable will still, oppose them on other issues.