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To: koan who wrote (9745)	2/19/2012 10:54:49 AM
From: sm1th	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 85487

It doesn't matter what the law was, segregation wasn't just bad it was horrendously bad. Is there any doubt about that? None of us were around in 1870 or 1880, so we can't really know what we would have thought or done in those circumstances. A hundred years from now people will look back at our society and think how could they have been so barbarious. I don't know what issue of today's society, which seems reasonable to most of us, will be shocking to future generations, but it is certain that there will be some. Things change, people evolve. Get over it, you can't undo the past.

To: koan who wrote (9745)	2/19/2012 11:47:55 AM
From: sm1th	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 85487

It doesn't matter what the law was, segregation wasn't just bad it was horrendously bad. Is there any doubt about that? In theory segragation sounds awful, in practice de-segregation is often worse. In 1970 Boston had a mix of decent and awful public schools. Almost all were neighborhood schools, which created implicit segregation. And yes the better schools were mostly in white areas and the bad ones mostly in black areas. In the early 70's the courts ordered a bussing program to end segregation. The result was massive white flight. Many families moved to the suburbs, while others moved their children to catholic or other private schools. The city is now slightly over 50% white, but the school system is less than 20% white. It is just as segregated as it was 40 years ago, except that now nearly all of the schools are awful. Many middle class families that would have fought for better public schools, no longer have a vested interest in them. Are the blacks really better off? Is society as a whole better off? The answer is not so obvious.