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To: sm1th who wrote (10242)	2/24/2012 10:40:27 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 85487

"Show me the similarly controlled experiment that the climate scientists have performed." We're in the test tube right now. "I agree that models can be useful, but much of what they predicted 10 years ago has not happened," Actually, things are happening faster than they expected,.. google.com

To: sm1th who wrote (10242)	2/24/2012 12:39:31 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 85487

As I keep saying, the top atmospheric scientists feel they know a lot about what is happening and unless we know what they are talking about how can we challenge them? E.g. how many people can tell a methane molecule from the tropics versus a methane molecule from the arctic? Very few. These scientist's are operating way over our head. They would not all be in agreement unless they were pretty sure. This AGW denying is really a political exercise between people not qualified to speak to the subject, IMO. <<Show me the similarly controlled experiment that the climate scientists have performed. I agree that models can be useful, but much of what they predicted 10 years ago has not happened, so it would seem that their models are deeply flawed. Since experimental verification is impossible, the best that they can do is observe how well their models work. So far they haven't worked very well. Not nearly well enough to justify changing the most fundamental things about modern society. They should keep modeling and verifying, but they should not be making recommendations until there is reasonable evidence that the models have useful predictive value.