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To: gastrodoc who wrote (29209)	2/25/2012 10:14:30 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Respond to of 223440

Exactly correct... but, it's not reform, it's another form of redistribution of wealth under the false cover of health care... GZ

To: gastrodoc who wrote (29209)	2/26/2012 11:29:06 AM
From: Kirk ©	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 223440

Not surprised to hear that. Sad as in the "good old days" many MDs loved their jobs so much they'd work into their 80s.... I'm curious, would you work in England or Germany with the systems they have there? How do MDs in Germany feel about their profession? I was "upset" to read a story in our local paper recently about someone very old with dementia but who had requested no extra measures be used to keep him alive had those requests ignored. The daughter was presented by the hospital of many choices to keep him alive and perhaps relieve suffering. I think one of the treatments was some drug therapy that cost nearly $100K... the total bill for the last two weeks before he died was something like $250K which Medicare "only" paid maybe $90K... the article said the daughter who was asked if she wanted the treatments didn't have to pay the difference... the article said the hospital would make it up by over charging people like me for procedures that our insurance companies cover. It sounded to me like the hospital "encouraged" someone in deep pain over her father dying.... to over treat because they knew they could get the money from idiots like me who pay for insurance. It was upsetting because the man was already in pain, didn't want the treatments when he was lucid yet he was given them and we all have to pay for it. I can't help but think hospitals like Kaiser, where I've had experience helping make the decision when to stop treatment for a loved one who asked for no tubes, etc... , not only follows the patients directives but does it more humanely because they don't make extra money from Medicare and insurance companies by prolonging suffering. It is no wonder the two political parties can't fix this either... such MASSIVE amounts of money from lawyers to insurance companies want to keep the gravy train open as long as possible while everyone else from good MDs to patients who want "reasonable" care at a fair price, suffer.