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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (15521)	2/29/2012 7:59:46 PM
From: kidl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 37516

>>>HOw much effing farking time is gonna be pi$$ed away on robocalls... don't we have IMPORTANT issues for the future of the country to work out..<<< You are a dreamer. The trick is to kick the can down the road. Nice salary and fat pensions. I am too old to do it again. . 40 yerars ago I cared and did something about it ... Now I just look for alternatives

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (15521)	3/3/2012 12:55:46 PM
From: onepath	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 37516

robo calls...i do not agree.Even i who thinks our politics is mostly crap do not stand for this deceit and believe if those responsible are linked to any of the five political parties that re-elections should be run in those riding and criminal charges laid.OR......lets just let everyone set up fake ballot boxes etc. and have a free for all and we know the 1% will win that one hands down,,,,,,,,, Campaign of robo-calls have no place in elections From Saturday's Globe and Mail Published Friday, Mar. 02, 2012 7:30PM EST Last updated Friday, Mar. 02, 2012 10:00PM EST Despite the juvenile nom de guerre “Pierre Poutine” that was used, allegedly by a Conservative operative, in Guelph, Ont., the robo-calls, if proven to have taken place, are more than a malicious partisan prank in the manner of the Liberals’ Vikileaks smear. Interfering with an elector’s ability to vote is an affront to democracy, and voter fraud is treated seriously – and properly so – as a criminal offence in Canada. More related to this story Alberta firm at centre of robo-call probe sues bombastic NDP MP Robo-calls: a catchier name, a better scandal Elections Canada taps CRTC for help with deluge of robo-call complaints Canadians are justifiably proud of the high standard of their electoral process, even if not all partisan participants are of a correspondingly high calibre. Indeed, Elections Canada has exported its expertise, advising many countries on how to conduct free and fair elections, and also on how to consolidate representative democracy by allowing a greater proportion of the population to actually vote. It is disgraceful then, that “suppressing votes” by directing people to the wrong polling station on election day, as allegedly occurred in Guelph, in the 2011 federal election campaign, would be considered by some excessively partisan campaign workers to be an acceptable tactic. It is not, and the RCMP and Elections Canada must vigorously investigate the claims and, if warranted, prosecute those responsible. But who is responsible? Elections Canada has received 31,000 "contacts" or messages from Canadians about receiving such calls, yet all the political parties deny any involvement. Opponents of the Conservative government are seized with the idea that the campaign of robo-calls and other harassing tactics was being directed by senior figures in the Conservative Party. Prime Minister Stephen Harper is evidently convinced that this is not the case, as he stood in the House of Commons on Wednesday and stated the national campaign of the Conservative Party had “absolutely, definitively... no role in any of this.” No one has produced any evidence to contradict Mr. Harper. All that is clear, for now, is that a great many Canadians believe that their democratic rights were assaulted in the 2011 election, and they blame the introduction of techniques that have been used in the United States to suppress votes, a campaign of deceptive or annoying phone messages. The strong groundswell of revulsion from Canadians suggests that such tactics have no place in elections in this country. Surely, for the present, the Canadian public should take Mr. Harper at his word – just as it should take both Pat Martin, the NDP MP who is taking a leading role on this matter, and Bob Rae, the Interim Leader of the Liberals, at theirs – until any or all of them should be found to be deficient in truthfulness and integrity. theglobeandmail.com