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To: longnshort who wrote (26071)	5/14/2012 2:05:42 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 69300

Aren't you embarassed by your original false accusation?? Here's what you said regarding Jerry Brown: "look at this moron, he raised taxes so more productive people left the state and he got less tax revenues." Now you are posting a PROPOSED ballot initiative. You knee-jerk tea partisans have no clue that aside from direct vote, it takes a supermajority in Calfornia state government to raise taxes. Don't let facts get in your way.

To: longnshort who wrote (26071)	5/14/2012 2:14:47 PM
From: average joe	Respond to of 69300

All the wealthy left got that way by government contracts and graft and some by inheritance. Without people who actually produce something the place would collapse like a house of cards. The wealthy left will continue to fiddle why the country slides down into total collapse. The producers are the enemy that must be attacked by the looters and moochers that run the country. foxnews.com "There may be something to be said – not much, but something – for taking from those who have inherited wealth a certain proportion of that wealth for the service of the State and the benefit of the poor and needy; and those who by their own ability, brains, industry, and exertion have earned money may reasonably be invited to surrender a small portion of it towards the maintenance of those public services by which they benefit, to wit, the Police, the Navy, the Army, the public sewers, and so forth. But to compel such individuals to bestow a large part of their earnings upon other individuals, who prosper by way of pensions, unemployment grants, or education allowances, is manifestly barbarous and indefensible. Yet this is the law. The original and only official basis of taxation was that individual citizens, in return for their money, received collectively some services from the State, the defense of their property and persons, the care of their health or the education of their children. All that has now gone. Citizen A, who has earned money, is commanded simply to give it to Citizens B, C, and D, who have not, and by force of habit this has come to be regarded as a normal and proper proceeding, whatever the comparative industry or merits of Citizens A, B, C, and D. To be alive has become a virtue, and the mere capacity to inflate the lungs entitles Citizen B to a substantial share in the laborious earnings of Citizen A."