To: Greg or e who wrote (26731 ) 6/5/2012 3:05:08 PM From: Solon 2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to “a bear is not a creature???? <<"All animals have different Natures evolved through Evolution. That includes humans.">> Again, your response is empty and completely stupid. “it's perfectly reasonable to kill your kid if it will bring about your desires. Just ask Susan Smith” The last time I checked the ideas of Susan Smith did not represent any consensus arrived at by reasonable people setting the moral guidelines for any particular community! Your responses just get dumber and dumber. “Experience and reason unaided by objective, transcendent, morality show us that people can do anything they desire as long as we can get away with it.” Of course you can do anything you desire if it is within your capacity to do. Nobody said you could not. “You are clearly obsessed/enraged at the idea that God would judge His creatures” “How do you know that Jesus sacrifice was not beneficial to Human life? If (through the sacrifice of one,) many are saved: how is that not beneficial?” The idea that killing something can appease a supernatural force to bring sun or rain or prosperity or prevent floods or earthquakes or starvation and death is an ancient belief common to pre-scientific people. It is based on ignorance and has no basis in fact. If you do not know that then you are very ill-read. Do you live near a university or a library? Check out either one for facts, Nimrod! “There is no global community who's survival and health takes precedence over the desires of the individual. How do you get there from the survival of the fittest?” All communities take precedence over the desires of the individual. All communities constrain individual behaviour for the good of the group. Even the smallest community (the family) sets moral guidelines for individuals. You just keep getting dumber. “If they had won they would have been totally justified (given the atheistic, might is right, morality) in disposing of their rivals.” Firstly, there is no “atheistic, might is right, morality”--LOL! An atheist can follow any philosophical school of thought provided it does not place a supernatural Creator at the center! “dispose of their rivals”. They may indeed have believed their actions were justified by a Moral Ideology (which was a strange mixture of Christianity and ‘Chosen People’ Nationalism). And THAT is the point. Thanks for finally getting it! Homo Sapiens as a whole (and many go even farther)--is a superior moral strategy. The Nazi experience taught us a great deal--just as did the Inquisition and the Times of Burning Witches and the horrific torture and murder of so many other "heretics". Remember when heresy was a moral crime?! Do you get it, yet?? “Reason, (devoid of an overarching, transcendent, ethic) shows us that whatever you can get away with is "right". “next verse…same as the first”.
