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To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (13879)	11/26/1997 12:10:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

What is your point, anyway, Freddy? Using logic, it would seem that you are saying that Catholics are responsible for all those poor women who were burned at the stake. I am saying that CHRISTIANS were responsible, and that Christianity is a male-dominated religion which has always tended to persecute or squelch women. Are you saying that Catholics are not Christians? Unless that is what you are asserting, I do not see your point. The fact that the debate between Catholics and Protestants is very divisive and violent, and has gone on for many centuries, simply gives credence my assertion that the institution of religion as a political force has been very destructive.

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (13879)	11/26/1997 12:34:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

This is a very interesting url. There are several different areas to click on, and what I like particularly is that the point is made that while women were dominated before Jesus appeared on the scene, and after his death, he was remarkably egalitarian. This is a point I have tried to make over and over again--that it is not Jesus who is the problem in the atrocities of Christianity (Catholic and Protestant), but followers who twisted his ideals and prophecies for their own selfish reasons. religioustolerance.org One of the items you can click on is just a few of the many Bible passages negative to women. Another argues that after Jesus' death men, over a period of time, did not follow his teachings but reverted to a male-dominant society, and wrote the Bible to conform to that view. You never explained why you think Christianity is good for women, or protects them, or makes them happy, or whatever it was you were trying to say defending Christianity and the way it treats women.