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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (191916)	6/17/2012 8:19:27 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543686

I don't want to be pedantic or anything, but the "processes" in making GMO crops are not exactly secret. There's a general set of processes for inserting genes in cells, what gets patented I think is just the result of inserting a particular gene in a particular crop strain. And if it's patented, it's actually public information anyway. There's really no proprietary or secret information involved in listing GMO ingredients, the GMO industry just doesn't want their product to be distinguishable from non-GMO crops so they don't have to deal with pesky PR problems.

To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (191916)	6/17/2012 11:57:30 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543686

I sense doubt in you about the 60's being about existentialism and not the Viet Nam war. It was the existential awareness that allowed all the great ideas of the 60's to manifest. The reality to allow us to question what our government was doing in Viet Nam, laws and culture supporting segregation, womens lib, gay rights, the environment, self actualization. Existentialism, above all else, allowed people the freedom to think freely and logically about all things, but especially the freedom to question one's myths and scripts. In all of history, when has that ever been the case before? And it logically follows the people best situated to engage in that endeavor would lead the way. Like the liberals around the world.

To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (191916)	6/18/2012 5:42:15 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543686

I don't have a problem with that (saying the product contains GMO corn whatever), I just don't think its fair or legal to require the GMO seed companies to have to disclose any of their patented processes. Maybe I was a little fuzzy about this in my initial posts on the subject. Patents don't mean that a company can keep their proprietary processes a secret. In fact, just the opposite is true, since they would have to disclose the details of those processes in order to obtain a patent. Patent applications are public documents. The point of getting a patent is to prevent other people from using your inventions (or your invented processes) without your permission.