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To: Ali Chen who wrote (26187)	11/26/1997 11:01:00 PM
From: Yousef	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572970

Ali, Re: "The K6 demand vastly exceeds supply. Product acceptance is more than good. Roadmap is straight and clear ..." The supply has been very poor ... especially for the 233mhz K6. In this case, it is easy for the demand to exceed supply. The Roadmap is almost in "shambles" ... AMD's .35um process is two speed bins (minimum) short of Intel and AMD's .25um process looks to be uncompetitive. This means that AMD will continue to be at least two speed bins behind Intel in the desktop and mobile markets. AMD's Roadmap is a failure ... once the Institutions recognize that AMD will not be making any money for the next year, AMD stock will head to the low teens. Make It So, Yousef

To: Ali Chen who wrote (26187)	11/27/1997 12:56:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 1572970

I don't think you are kidding anybody with your twisted observations since few doubt the fact that if AMD had been making the product with sufficient quality in sufficient quantity that they would not be in the pickle they now find themselves: no profits for the forseeable future if we are to believe the CEO's comments. It should come as no surprise that OEM's don't really care which product meets their criteria. The simple truth is AMD has not, is not and probably never will be able to produce quality product in sufficient quantity in a reasonable time. One broken promise after another. The majority of K6 processors will end up in the backend of late-model slurpee machines.

To: Ali Chen who wrote (26187)	11/28/1997 5:47:00 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572970

Ali, I just received this via my newspaper. If true it could pose a real problem for ADM. Fear of K6 November 28, 1997 WINDOWS Magazine via Individual Inc. : I'm writing in response to a letter from Corey J. Edmundson (Letters, October) regarding problems with AMD's K6 chip. He said he works in sales for a large systems manufacturer and has found customers "a little scared" of the K6 due to "the problems of the K5 chip sold a year ago." I happen to be using a K5 PR166 and have had no problems whatsoever. Prior to deciding on this CPU, I talked to some highly qualified technicians, all of whom said the K5 was a great chip. They also told me it's faster than the Intel offerings. If there are legitimate reasons to shy away from any of Intel's competitors, I'd like to hear something more concrete than vague customer fears. Bruce Sparhawk via the Internet I recently purchased an AMD-K6 233 from a local vendor. I plugged the chip into my ASUS P55T2P4 motherboard, and it worked flawlessly. In addition, I bought a secondary cooling fan as well as thermal grease and a heat sink/fan combo for the processor. The K6 ran fine in Windows 95 for about 4 hours when it spontaneously rebooted. Each time I rebooted and tried to load the OS, it would reboot again. The heat sink was extremely hot; on further investigation, I found that the chip heats up in about 3 minutes under Windows 95 or DOS, to the point where it is almost too hot to touch. In researching this problem, I found that many other people are having similar difficulties. Thus far, stories on the K6 processor have been overwhelmingly positive. However, I believe that there are serious heat problems that people should be aware of. I never had heat problems with either my Intel Pentium 100 or my Intel Pentium 166. My K6 is going back to the store in exchange for an Intel MMX processor. _____________________________________________________________________ Regards, Michaelÿ