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To: koan who wrote (115800)	6/25/2012 10:59:28 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Good questions koan. There are folks who swallow what the right wing bloggers say. Unfortunate that it should be such. Now these winger bloggers are preying on the ignorance of the people and are using the same tactics that communists use to win people over to their way of thinking.

To: koan who wrote (115800)	6/26/2012 11:08:32 AM
From: John Vosilla	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Why can't we pare costs back? How much is tort reform needed to accomplish that? How much is the cost of defensive medicine, red tape and malpractice insurance factor into it? Maybe throw the bums out of both parties since the legal industrial complex owns the Dems?

To: koan who wrote (115800)	6/27/2012 4:16:55 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 149317

RE:"Why didn't we do the same? Why can't we pare costs back?" 1. no free market in healthcare. 2. Once the government got involved aka medicare prices adjusted up. 3.THEN the No 1 rule of government kicks in. "Once you give it away you got hell rolling it back". Works on all fronts. Cost side too. Look at what happens to government spending during the bubble....so where is the austerity? None really...yet.... everyone screams...you want us to give up our "gains"???? Had universal care been implemented back in the 60s maybe it would be doable from a cost standpoint yet today, a plan like Obamacare, with no cost controls is an albatross. I bet healthcare costs in Canada are a lot lower since universal was enacted a long time ago.