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To: sandeep who wrote (137155)7/6/2012 10:17:03 AM
From: Kelly G.4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213182
 
So, their biz model allows for razor thin margins but apple's doesn't.
How do you figure that? You can have lower margins if you have higher volume. However, Apple currently has a higher Revenue Growth Rate than Amazon (it would be hard to compare units or such). A higher growth rate usually justifies a higher PE. In this comparison, though, if you apply Amazon's PE to Apple, you get a stock price of nearly $8000 per share.

Look at the real numbers and you will see that Apple's are simply gorgeous. Look at Amazon's and I see a train wreck waiting to happen.



To: sandeep who wrote (137155)7/6/2012 2:36:21 PM
From: Cogito4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213182
 
What happens if AMZN actually makes a phone and sells it at very low margins because they can? I wonder if this will cause tremendous pressure on all cell phone vendors. AMZN seems to have the ability to sell everything they make at nearly 0% profit and then make it up by selling what others make - i.e. books etc. I have bought way more books on the Fire than on the ipad or anytime before. So, their biz model allows for razor thin margins but apple's doesn't.
You're right, Sandeep, that Amazon's business model allows them to sell something like the Kindle at a loss, and make up the difference on books or whatever.

I'm don't believe that same strategy would work with phones, however. Smartphones have not proven to be popular as book readers, probably due to the smaller screens. But even if Amazon does get into the phone business, Apple wouldn't be in trouble. You can presently get an iPhone for free when you sign up for a 2 year contract, which leaves Amazon nowhere to go in undercutting Apple on price.

As we've seen, more people are willing to pay a few hundred bucks more to get an iPad than are seduced by the low price of a smaller, stripped-down tablet like the Fire.



To: sandeep who wrote (137155)7/6/2012 3:27:51 PM
From: rnsmth3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213182
 
It will not hurt Apple.

There are already cheap Android phones in the global market.

Also, Amazon has no phone related patents to speak of.

MSFT will be going after them, and MSFT already gets 5-10 dollar a handset from Android phone makers