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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (28917)	7/26/2012 10:02:34 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"Of course to the older Hebrew there was the idea if all the criteria of sacrifices were met , one acknowledged all the rites of diet , prayer & proper celebration , one could be relatively free from Sin all obligations fulfilled..." In Leviticus they used two goats One was sacrificed to please Yahweh. The other was driven into the desert carrying all the sins of the tribe and allowed to escape. Today this "escape" goat is a "scape goat". The goat takes the wrongdoings of others and suffers in the wilderness of social condemnation. The fellow who was to drive the goat out had to go through a thorough cleansing before being allowed back in camp. These advanced desert wanderers had it all figured out! ;-)

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (28917)	7/26/2012 5:11:47 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 69300

From the apoclyptic preachings ( rantings) of Paul soon after they realized that they had gotten the 2nd coming all wrong , so had to run with the guilt ridden contamination of the flesh & persistent original sin idea Actually, of course, Paul spent far more time writing about sin and justification and the spirit and the flesh than he did the return of Jesus. All the major Christian doctrines go back to the beginning. This fellow knows nothing of Christianity or history.

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (28917)	7/26/2012 8:29:24 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 69300

Conclusion This article shows that there is no evidence that the Christianity spread by Paul was the same Christianity of the disciples in Jerusalem or was the same Christianity that lead to the production of the Gospels. Indeed, Paul had so little interest in what the disciples had to say about Jesus that he never mentions any person, who, according to Paul, saw Jesus while he was alive. Indeed, Paul had so little interest in what the disciples had to say about Jesus that he couldn't be bothered to talk to most of them, even when he had made a special trip to Jerusalem. Paul did not regard being a companion of Jesus as anything special. As far as he was concerned, the earthly life of Jesus had no interest and being a companion of Jesus did not mark one out as an apostle. How could this be if Jesus did all the things attributed to him in the Gospels? Where did Paul learn all of this? Paul claims revelation. More likely, he learned from others, if not from Peter, James and John. sonofman.org Paul knew almost nothing about the life of Jesus (The four Gospels were not written, and Paul does not mention any events in the life of Jesus, except the Lord’s supper and resurrection. He only met Peter and James, a brother of Jesus. He made no attempt to meet any other apostles during his 15-day visit to Jerusalem in AD 39. Among the 7 epistles that most scholars believe were written by Paul, Paul fails to mention any events: Miracles Parables Birth, Mary and Joseph The Lord's Prayer The Transfiguration The Sermon on the Mount See of Galilee Temple visit, Nazareth Pontius Pilate Judas Iscariot’s betrayal Gethsemane Son of Man Graham Stanton (Professor of New Testament Studies in the University of London), in his book 'Gospel Truth', says that Paul's failure to refer more frequently to the actions and teaching of Jesus is 'baffling.' Why did Paul not mention these events in the Gospels? Paul did not hear many stories from Peter or James. He spent only 2 weeks with them. Moreover, James hardly was trained by his brother Jesus. He never followed Jesus, except possibly on one occasion. Jesus neglected his family. Most of the time, James was not a firsthand eyewitness to any major events in Jesus’ life. Thus, any story about Jesus that Paul knows is from Peter (Cephas).