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To: koan who wrote (94068)	8/29/2012 5:01:27 PM
From: average joe	1 Recommendation Respond to of 218072

We are evolving as a species and a culture to what we do not know? But liberals try to take the best of it, like freedom of bigotry and deal with the worst of it like global warming, pollution and over population. You told us this morning what we were evolving to. Have you changed your mind again? Here is the reality of where the worldwide evolution is going and what we must recognize. No going back. Message 28368983 As far as libertarianism goes, that is what the tribes did to people in the olden days when they were bad i.e. banished them to the wilds to live without society to protect them. They usually didn't last long without the tribe. "The basic premise of crude, primitive tribal collectivism [is] the notion that wealth belongs to the tribe or to society as a whole, and that every individual has the “right” to “participate” in it." Ayn Rand “Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.” Ayn Rand aynrandlexicon.com

To: koan who wrote (94068)	8/29/2012 6:13:30 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 218072

koan... liberals try to tell everyone what they should think and do and desire to impose their ideas upon everyone .. they believe that they have the moral high ground.. sounds a lot like conservatives to me.. you guys are all dogma victims.. religion or otherwise.. most people like to find a place to belong.. too bad folks can't just be people instead of liberals or conservatives or Christian or Muslim or Jew.. It is the end of summer and we have a hot spell again in Toronto... there are so many beautiful women around grabbing the last of the heat of all colours and beliefs.. so many short shorts.. life is good ... I am drinking them in heavily.. storing up lovely visions for the winter drought.. I am a consummate cynic politically .... politics ? IT'S ALL CRAP... don't delude yourself..:O) I truly envy my thirteen year old and nineteen year old.. the future is theirs and there is lots to look forward to if you look in the right places:O) Label yourself and you are someone's lackey...