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To: LindyBill who wrote (507132)	9/9/2012 9:17:53 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793916

From your link - "The war remains at the forefront, naturally, for members of the military such as Marine Lt. Gen. John Kelly, whose son, 2nd Lt. Robert M. Kelly, was killed by a roadside bomb in southern Afghanistan in November 2010. "America as a whole today is certainly not at war, not as a country, not as a people," Kelly said in a speech Aug. 28 at the American Legion's national convention. Kelly is Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's senior military assistant. "Only a tiny fraction of American families fear all day and every day a knock at the door that will shatter their lives," Kelly said. That knock came this past week for more families, including that of Jeremie S. Border, a 28-year-old Army Special Forces staff sergeant from Mesquite, Texas. His alma mater, McMurry University, said he graduated in 2006 with degrees in sociology and communications. He played four seasons for the school's football team, whose players will wear a helmet decal bearing his uniform number, 28, for the remainder of this season. The Pentagon said Tuesday that he was killed by small arms fire last Saturday, along with Army Staff Sgt. Jonathan P. Schmidt, 28, of Petersburg, Va., a graduate of Thomas Dale High School outside Richmond. Schmidt was an explosive ordnance disposal expert assigned to a unit based at Fort Bragg, N.C. The Fayetteville (N.C.) Observer reported that he joined the Army in 2003 and is survived by his wife and one son. Marine Lance Cpl. Alec R. Terwiske, 21, of Dubois, Ind., was killed in combat last Monday in Helmand province. He was a reservist with a tank battalion based at Fort Knox, Ky., but in Afghanistan he was assigned to a combat engineer battalion. The Pentagon provided no details about the circumstances of his death. Army Spc. Kyle R. Rookey, 23, of Oswego, N.Y., died last Sunday in Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan in a noncombat incident. As is standard with noncombat deaths the Pentagon offered no other details pending an investigation. Rookey is survived by his wife, Victoria, and a daughter, Flora, according to a report by CNYCentral.com in Syracuse, which said Gov. Andrew Cuomo ordered that flags at all state buildings fly at half-staff Friday in Rookey's honor."

To: LindyBill who wrote (507132)	9/9/2012 12:50:09 PM
From: FJB	3 Recommendations Respond to of 793916

Is this a joke? Troop deaths stopped being reported under this pos leader. People are sickened by American soldiers dying if it is reported. You have to report it first. We should have been out of these shitholes right after we won the wars in a couple days. You cannot build a civilized society for people that refuse to act responsibly or act like humans in general. AP: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths.

To: LindyBill who wrote (507132)	9/9/2012 1:36:41 PM
From: i-node	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793916

It is one more case of, "If we blame Bush, we don't have to take responsibility for anything." Romney is making a mistake, IMO, by not raising the issue. Why are we still there? When my son went to Iraq, it was about the time of the surge, and while I didn't like that he had to go, there was a point to it. I would hate for him to have to go to Afghanistan today, where there appears to be no end game other than killing the clock until 2014, an arbitrary date after which we are to stop losing American heroes to a futile effort. Yes, Bush started the wars, and yes I supported them from the outset and for a very long time. But it is not hypocritical to look at the facts and comprehend that our actions as well as our circumstances have changed. It isn't as though, one day, we're going to wake up and read the headline, "TALIBAN SURRENDERS!".