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To: combjelly who wrote (679307)10/17/2012 9:14:42 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Respond to of 1572100
 
While Obama did much better last night, Romney was the better debater ... but he had Obama's RECORD on his side.



To: combjelly who wrote (679307)10/17/2012 9:15:40 AM
From: Brumar892 Recommendations  Respond to of 1572100
 
Romney: "Mr. President, have you checked your portfolio, you also have investments in China"

0bama:"Candy we're a little off topic here"

Translated: Help, Candy, he's bringing up facts.



To: combjelly who wrote (679307)10/17/2012 10:43:49 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572100
 
>> Considering how badly your bot got spanked last night, I'd say your assessment is wrong.

Oh, BS. The damned thing was a tie at worst, and no objective person thinks Obama won by any margin.

If you take out the Candy Crowley interruption/confusion on Libya, Romney scored a clear win.

If this moves the polls at all it will be toward Romney.



To: combjelly who wrote (679307)10/17/2012 10:44:44 AM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572100
 
really ?

October 17, 2012
CBS Poll: Romney Wins 65-34 on Economy;
CNN Poll: Romney Wins 54-40 on Economy,
49-46 on Health Care,
51-44 on Taxes,
59-36 on Deficit,
49-46 on Leadership,
All in Favor of Romney



To: combjelly who wrote (679307)10/17/2012 10:46:33 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 1572100
 
MSNBC's Undecided Voter Panel Swayed by Romney
1:19 AM, Oct 17, 2012 • By DANIEL HALPER



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To: combjelly who wrote (679307)10/17/2012 10:48:55 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572100
 
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. — Another debate, another debacle for America’s media.

In the runup to the second presidential debate, CNN’s Candy Crowley declared that she would not just be a “fly on the wall” as she played the tiny role of moderator, that she would step in whenever she chose to say, “Hey, wait a second, what about X, Y, Z?”

And boy did she, cutting off Republican Mitt Romney repeatedly and often throwing the floor to President Obama with an open “let me give the president a chance here.”

More, she alone decided the topics for the debate, picking questions from the 80 so-called “undecided” voters chosen by the Gallup polling organization. Her selections were tailor-made for Mr. Obama — Mitt Romney’s tax plan, women’s rights and contraception, outsourcing, immigration, the Libya debacle (which gave Mr. Obama to finally say that the buck stops with him, not, as Hillary Clinton said, with her).

She even chose this question, directed to both men: “I do attribute much of America’s economic and international problems to the failings and missteps of the Bush administration. Since both of you are Republicans, I fear the return to the policies of those years should you win this election. What is the biggest difference between you and George W. Bush, and how do you differentiate yourself from George W. Bush?”

Ms. Crowley, who called Mr. Romney’s selection of Rep. Paul Ryan as running mate a “ticket death wish,” asserted her unilateral power at the outset, telling the audience before the cameras went on that she planned to “give the debate direction and ensure the candidates give answers to the questions.”

After both candidates answered Question One, she blurted: “Let me get a more immediate answer” — whatever that means. But when Mr. Romney sought to correct falsehoods told by the president, she cut him off: “We have all these folks here.” In the end, Mr. Obama would get 9 percent more time.

At Question Two, Mr. Obama, asked by Mr. Romney how much he had cut federal oil permits, took over the floor — with Ms. Crowley’s silent approval. “Here’s what happened,” he said as he filibustered for a full minute. Mr. Romney sought to get the last word — as the president had the question before — but the moderator shut him down: “It’ doesn’t quite work like that.”

When Mr. Romney sought to counter Mr. Obama’s assertion after Question Three, Ms. Crowley again cut him off: “Before we get into a vast array….” she said before asking a completely different question.

The next question was pure Obama — workplace inequality (the president mention at every stop his Lily Ledbetter legislation). But the query gave him the platform to demand Americans pay for contraception for all women, saying the governor “feels comfortable having politicians in Washington decide the health care choices that women are making.”

For the record, Mr. Obama spoke for two minutes, then Mr. Romney, then Mr. Obama again. Ms. Crowley then rushed into the next question.

When the immigration question came up, both candidates gave their answers. Then the moderator once again butted in, ordering Mr. Romney to “speak to the idea of self-deportation.”

By then, Mr. Romney had had enough, and talked over her demands. “No, let — let — let me go back and speak to the points the president made and — and — and let’s get them correct.”

At the next question, the moderator lost all control. “ Candy,” Mr. Obama said. “Hold on.” “Mr. President,” the governor said, “I’m still speaking.” They mixed it up for a bit, then Ms. Crowley said: “Sit down, Mr. Romney.”

Story Continues ?

Read more: CURL: Crowley skews hard for Obama in disastrous presidential debate - Washington Times washingtontimes.com
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To: combjelly who wrote (679307)10/17/2012 2:22:13 PM
From: jlallen1 Recommendation  Respond to of 1572100
 
Obama was good...but no better than Romney....he needed a big win like Romney had....and he did not get it.

J.