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To: LindyBill who wrote (515675)10/22/2012 8:49:16 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793955
 
I believe the Right would have a sweep every national election without this issue.

I agree. I think that every anti-abortion conservative should come out and say "I don't approve of abortion, but I have no intention of changing the status quo"

But the left is spinning this way beyond abortion. They are turning the story from "republicans don't want to force people to pay for your birth control" into "republicans want to take birth control away".



To: LindyBill who wrote (515675)10/22/2012 8:55:08 AM
From: goldworldnet1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793955
 
Even with a few Romney Justices on the Supreme Court, Stare Decisis makes it unlikely "Roe vs Wade" would be reversed.

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To: LindyBill who wrote (515675)10/22/2012 9:05:54 AM
From: Joe NYC2 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793955
 
Re: Women's rights

Abortion rights is the strongest mover of voters that the Left has, IMO. I am for the laws as they are. I wish we had not got there the "Row vs Wade" way, but that's water under the bridge. The people on the Right who are anti our abortion laws claim it's 50/50 and doesn't cost us any votes. I believe the Right would have a sweep every national election without this issue. I believe it's the reason for the huge gender gap.


I agree with this. This is the reason why Dems win single women by a huge margin.

There may be a 50/50 split between people who find it immoral and those who don't, but advocating a leap to make what many find immoral - to make it illegal - it turns 50/50 split into a 25/75 loss.

There nearly a zero percentage chance that:
1. Roe vs. Wade will be overturned
AND
2. some states will make abortion illegal

So all the arguments are about what is a hypothetical scenario, and GOP is losing votes because of a hypothetical...

Can some pro-life GOPers come out and say that they find abortion immoral but they not make it illegal?

Joe



To: LindyBill who wrote (515675)10/22/2012 10:08:06 AM
From: alanrs2 Recommendations  Respond to of 793955
 
"I believe the Right would have a sweep every national election without this issue."

We have a friend, a human resources lawyer with a large corporation everyone would recognize, who will not vote republican no matter what over this issue. She's straight, married, not a militant feminist. One of her kids is mentally and physically handicapped, they did not abort and are raising him so made the decision against abortion when it was personal. The struggle to get reproductive control over her own body looms so large that she is unwilling to take the chance that it would be taken away. My surmise is that there is more than the abortion issue involved, probably a reaction to disliking other people telling her what to do, especially men people.

Interestingly, she supports the drug laws, wanting to protect her kids. Even more interestingly, her daughter (an athlete, now in college, probably not a drug user) took her mom on a drive around town (Evanston) when still in high school, pointing out all the places one can buy drugs, which drugs went with which place, which places tended to have the better wares. Public places, restaurants, alleys, not anyone's house.

On another subject, I drove Jon to school this morning and NPR was interviewing some guy with a deep, soothing voice still peddling the 'fog of war, we don't yet know' point of view.

ARS



To: LindyBill who wrote (515675)10/22/2012 12:00:45 PM
From: the_wheel  Respond to of 793955
 
Last night "Upstairs/Downstairs" on PBS , one of the upstairs gals answered an ad in the paper for "menstrual" remedies. This is 1939 mind you, wonder what happens next?