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To: Dennis 3 who wrote (49909)	10/30/2012 11:31:01 AM
From: Madharry	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78752

As far as Im concerned the inflation number is quite phony. the only deflation that i see for myself will be in my mortgage costs assuming i can refinance and lower my rate from 5.5% to 3.5%. OTOH I have seen food costs increase by way more than 1-2% for just about any item that contains nutrients. Health Insurance, College Tuition seem to be going up by at least 5 % every year. The only way I seem to be able to save money is by doing things myself or hiring high school kids. In the meantime we continue to face structural unemployment. there are just fewer full time jobs out there. and politicians are slow to adjust. where i live its just beautiful and land is reasonbly priced and plentiful. I spoke to someone and expressed surprised that more industry doesnt relocate here and he told me that they they just dont want to deal with union activity which he feels is encouraged in the state of Mass. So the government needs to gets its act together and offer sufficient inducements and incentives to rebuild a manufacturing base in this country. thats the only way out that i can see.

To: Dennis 3 who wrote (49909)	10/30/2012 11:01:45 PM
From: Spekulatius	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78752

>>We had QE1, qe2 with no significant inflation despite cnbc and its "expert" guests reporting it will be a problem. Now are in qe3 and the inflation scare is making its way on the news again<< You can turn this argument around and ask yourself. - well QE1 and QE2 have not worked as expected, why should QE3 work? The problem with inflation is that it is not uniform. First of all, all the items that are "volatile" like energy, gasoline, food are taken out of the "core" inflation number to begin with. Amongst the remaining items, my observation is that some items show significant inflation (mostly those that one cannot do without) while others become cheaper over time. So the overal inflation average is not telling the whole story. Somehwat related, I would argue that 8% unemployment is not the real problem itself. The real problem is that the 8% is just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak, the real unemployment, if you add those that have given up looking for a job (this adds to up the mid single digits and would be the number that you need to compare unemployment numbers in Europe with) and add to that the working poor (which probably is about equal to the number that don't pay any income tax, ~47% according to Romney). That is a pretty large percentage of the populace that has a problem and not just since the great recession.

To: Dennis 3 who wrote (49909)	10/30/2012 11:01:49 PM
From: Spekulatius	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78752

>>We had QE1, qe2 with no significant inflation despite cnbc and its "expert" guests reporting it will be a problem. Now are in qe3 and the inflation scare is making its way on the news again<< You can turn this argument around and ask yourself. - well QE1 and QE2 have not worked as expected, why should QE3 work? The problem with inflation is that it is not uniform. First of all, all the items that are "volatile" like energy, gasoline, food are taken out of the "core" inflation number to begin with. Amongst the remaining items, my observation is that some items show significant inflation (mostly those that one cannot do without) while others become cheaper over time. So the overal inflation average is not telling the whole story. Somehwat related, I would argue that 8% unemployment is not the real problem itself. The real problem is that the 8% is just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak, the real unemployment, if you add those that have given up looking for a job (this adds to up the mid single digits and would be the number that you need to compare unemployment numbers in Europe with) and add to that the working poor (which probably is about equal to the number that don't pay any income tax, ~47% according to Romney). That is a pretty large percentage of the populace that has a problem and not just since the great recession.