To: RetiredNow who wrote (125810 ) 10/31/2012 2:30:36 AM From: zeta1961 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 149317 MM, what is Obamaphone? MM, as much as I respect you----we part ways on this issue of "Welfare Industrial Complex." That's an old worn out meme that is not relevant any more---Clinton with the Gingrich congress reformed welfare like nobody else has and we don't have people taking advantage like in the 70s/80s. Did you read my 2 posts on who Medicaid covers? And how Ryan's cuts would force either greater payments by those of us, including you, who have insurance or cutting back the # of folk it serves.. As one post similarly asks, I must ask you, MM: are you willing to go into a hospital room to tell a mom and dad that their child with cerebral palsy is being discharged earlier than medically recommended because of the cuts that you support? That his 21 day course of antibiotics is being cut short to 10 days even though it's medically unsafe to do so. When asked by these frightened parents of the consequences, are you willing to tell them that their child's infection wiill return with even fiercer symptoms but he won't be eligible for care? To tell the mom who did not abort her multiple needs child but our society is unwilling to help her child have the basic health care needs met.... Here's a project for you, if you have the time and are willing: check out the tax breaks, loopholes and incentives that the oil companies and other major corps have received over the past 20 years and compare it with the amount spent on the poor....Medicare and Social Security don't count since those folk payed, invested in it with their own money earned while working. I don't know the exact numbers and I am genuinely interested in what you find...