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To: bentway who wrote (209914)	11/29/2012 5:22:25 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543242

US is pretty unique in the Western world in that it is not actually facing a dying population. However, almost all of its population growth is coming from minorities (soon to be majorities). So we don't really need to import people. Personally, I think there are too many people in the world already and we are taxing the Earth resources to the limit. I don't see the population cliff problems as a big problem in the large scheme of things. In a short span, humanity has gone from 100 million to 7 billion and is on track to reach 9 billion. Somewhere around 2 - 4 billion is the sustainable population. We will get there either voluntarily or in couple of generations we'll kill each other over natural resources and get there involuntarily. Better to do it peacefully. jmo, ST

To: bentway who wrote (209914)	11/29/2012 7:36:40 PM
From: cosmicforce	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543242

<We're going to need all those new workers to pay YOUR SS, so you should be for them!> Possibly true, but to pay SS we need high wage earners not menial workers working informally and illegally. It seems grossly unfair to let ease of access determine who can and can not be admitted as a citizen. I'm pretty sure that my SS has been paid for since my benefits will be low and my cash payments have been very high. These cash dollars have been turned into debt instruments - essentially IOUs. As I said in a previous post I deduced 30 years ago that by the time I would be eligible, SS likely would be little more than a supplement, if I get anything. If they push retirement up to 70 they are changing the agreement unilaterally. I have no intention to be clocking 9-5 at that age. I'd like to have spent the previous 10 years experiencing the world I helped to build and to continue doing things that are useful. Maybe Engineers without Borders or something like that... I'm not confident in the future of SS. JMO.