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To: RetiredNow who wrote (128505)12/6/2012 8:33:17 AM
From: koan1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Well, as I keep telling you we are not talking about pure socialism. That exists in no democratic country. We are talking about welfare sates which are a combination of socialism and capitalism.

And in a democratic welfare state, policy is what the people say it is.

Can you get that?

<<Then if I don't know what socialism is, then you tell me what you think Socialism is? Below is what wikipedia says.
Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy...Proponents of state socialism advocate the nationalisation of the means of production, distribution and exchange as a strategy for implementing socialism. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism



To: RetiredNow who wrote (128505)12/6/2012 11:08:35 AM
From: Wharf Rat1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
"Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production",

as in, If we nationalized the corps for 8 quarters, we'd pay off the debt, at $1.75T/quarter. We could even un-nationalize them after that. The fact that this isn't even a suggestion by any pol, including Bernie Sanders, and prolly the Commie Party of America, (if they still exist) shows just how far we are from socialism.


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