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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (211045)	12/9/2012 5:30:59 PM
From: neolib	Respond to of 541701

FWIW, I suspect an interesting (and politically troublesome) link here involving race and immigration. What I observe in my little rural backwater is that the uneducated white's have been hard hit by Hispanic immigration in terms of employment. The reference to Russian male life expectancy decline after the Soviet breakup gives some anecdotal support I think. Chronic unemployment can be devastating for mental/emotional health and in the end have a significant impact on life expectancy. Not something that would likely get NHI funding if you were to propose studying it as such...

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (211045)	12/9/2012 10:59:48 PM
From: epicure	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541701

No one is owed a period of living off the government before they die. I don't expect to get that. I hope I don't get that. Nor do I have a "desk job". And you have no idea what jobs I've had. I've had numerous physically hard jobs. I will never agree that the young should pay so the old can play. I am willing to support the indigent old. But the old with assets? I don't think so. I see ss and medicare as an insurance scheme. Do you get mad at the insurance company because your house didn't burn down, and you didn't get "yours"? IMO that's what medicare and SS should be- insurance waiting for you, if you managed your funds so badly you have nothing. You're just going to have to accept that I have experience with hard labor, and I still hold the views I hold. I see noting "moral" in indenturing America's young to pay for America's elders- especially when the elders have assets. It's not like I'm saying raise the rate to 80. 67. It's just not that old. And sure, some people won't make it. Some people die in their 20's. Some people die in their 30's. Life isn't fair.