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To: Ditchdigger who wrote (13395)	12/12/2012 11:02:57 AM
From: Paul Senior	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34328

GE: Only modest returns on equity over past few years. And this, a company with almost 1/2 $Trillion in debt. GE? For me-- No.

To: Ditchdigger who wrote (13395)	12/12/2012 12:11:17 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34328

GE vs. SI: Siemens is the "European GE". Both are old huge manufacturing conglomerates. They directly compete in a list of products. I used to own GE, but have switched to SI. My thinking on this changed gradually, beginning in 2008. SI never cut their dividend, while GE did. During the last recession and its aftermath, it slowly became clear to me that GE's reputation for quality management was not deserved. They had achieved profit growth, but at the cost of assuming huge risks. These risks were not disclosed or understood by management, or investors (including me). They had engaged in a lot of extremely complicated financial engineering, when their core competence was old-fashioned engineering. They had turned themselves into a leveraged bank, with opaque accounting. Companies this big, and this old, don't change their culture. I am not convinced the near-death experience of 2008-9 was sufficient to make them stop taking those unacceptable risks. SI has all the strengths of GE, without the weaknesses.

To: Ditchdigger who wrote (13395)	12/14/2012 4:35:32 PM
From: Triffin	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 34328

GE aka "generous electric" boosts dividend payout by 12% ===== General Electric Board of Directors approves 12% increase in quarterly dividend to $0.19 from $0.17 per share; increases existing share-repurchase authorization by $10 bln ( GE) 21.66 +0.04 : The Board of Directors of General Electric Company (GE) raised the Company's quarterly dividend by 12%, or $0.02 per outstanding share of the Company's common stock, to $0.19 per outstanding share of the Company's common stock. The Board declared that the dividend is payable January 25, 2013 to shareowners of record at the close of business on December 24, 2012. The ex-dividend date is December 20, 2012. In addition, the Board increased the existing share-repurchase authorization by $10 billion and extended the repurchase plan through 2015, which otherwise would have expired on December 31, 2013. As of the end of the third quarter of 2012, the plan had approximately $4.9 billion in remaining authorization. ===== Triff ..