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To: ManyMoose who wrote (1588)	12/14/2012 8:43:14 PM
From: Brumar89	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 124960

.... decades of failed liberal policy have made it difficult to force people with severe mental diseases to be treated or institutionalized. And, then we are all shocked when these same dysfunctional individuals go on a shooting rampage like we witnessed today in Newtown. For Your Country posted this back after schizophrenic Jared Loughner went on his shooting rampage in Arizona that left several people dead and US Rep. Gabby Giffords seriously wounded. It is just as true today. It actually very hard to force people with severe mental diseases to be treated because of a range of reforms pushed by progressives starting in the 60's: Ronald David Laing, a Scottish Psychiatrist, In the 60's put forth the foundation of the Anti-Psychiatry movement. He maintained that schizophrenia was “a theory not a fact”. The popularity of Laing’s theories is blamed for decline in students entering the psychology profession. President John F. Kennedy’s 1963 Community Mental Health Centers Act accelerated the trend toward deinstitutionalizationwith the establishment of a network of community mental health centers and changes in laws regarding commitment. Kenneth Kesey, wrote “One Flew over the Cukoo’s Nest”based in part on Laing’s thinking (and his own intensive use of drugs). “Kesey did not believe that these patients were insane, rather that society had pushed them out because they did not fit the conventional ideas of how people were supposed to act and behave.” The Book,play, and later the movie, portrayed a anti-psychiatry philosophy leading to a public displeasure with residential mental facilities resulting in further deinstitutionalization policies. Deinstitutioanlization led to many legal and structural changes. American public mental hospital patients declined from more than 550,000 in 1955 to fewer than 40,000 at present. The displaced patients now represent 30-50% of the homeless populations. As a result of Laing, Kennedy, Kesey and public efforts to transform the mental health care system to be more humane, to characterize mentally ill people as “Just thinking differently”, and characterizing mental health care as some form of evil, we now have a system that makes it virtually impossible to get folks like Loughner the care they need. Deinstitutionalization policies driven by “do good” liberals and the federal government put focus on limited bad acts. Kesey wrote a story based on his LSD induced observations in one VA mental hospital. Once his story was put into film, his small example falsely characterized the bulk of mental health care as dehumanizing and made it impossible to force the Laughners of the world to get treatment. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/liberal-policies-are-to-blame-for-todays-mass-shooting-in-newtown-ct/

To: ManyMoose who wrote (1588)	12/14/2012 9:11:42 PM
From: goldworldnet	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 124960

Many more should be and when things go terribly wrong, the standard excuse is that the person wasn't taking their medication. People with mental disorders can't be expected to reliably take medications on their own and if violence is a problem, more is required than a bottle of pills for public safety. Why aren't these people confined to a mental facility??? * * *

To: ManyMoose who wrote (1588)	12/14/2012 9:46:00 PM
From: KLP	4 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 124960

This has been a truly terrible day for our entire Country! One BIG reason for all the mental illness problems out on the streets, is that in Oct 1963, President John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy, signed a bill about Deinstitutionization.....No longer would we have as many mental hospitals, we could not commit mentally ill people to these hospitals without their consent, we couldn't arrest these folks for hanging out on the streets, we couldn't call hospitals or cops to deal with them if any of them talked about killing others (the response was "well, they haven't done it yet, have they?") and all the other items on that bill. The Kennedy's wanted their sister Rosemary to be home, and cared for at home, thus the bill started its path to becoming law. Over time, the mental hospitals got fewer and fewer dollars to operate, eventually faded from view, and so many of the mentally ill were left to wander on the streets. People kill other people with cars, knives, baseball bats, starvation, and so many other ways, including guns. Most of us know that guns by themselves kill no one. When will we start looking at the people who are doing the killing, and find the common reason for all the similar crimes.....ie. Chicago and Detroit for starters.... People kill other people.There is NO weapon that kills people all by itself.