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To: Metacomet who wrote (211996)	12/17/2012 9:13:39 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541099

Certainly, some people do kill with guns but a gun does not crawl out of a closet and go find the nearest person to kill like some sort of Terminator robot... There are people and causal events leading up to shooting deaths and these high profile cases invariably involve someone with mental problems that has not been treated and USUALLY, this has been known in advance. No one in their right mind would do this, right? I've owned guns for 45 years. Am I suddenly going to do this? No, mine have been locked up for years because I have young people in my home. Comparing gun ownership to slavery is inane - there is a 0.99999 correlation to slavery and the effect on the slave. There is a 0.000001 correlation to gun ownership and murder. For everyone reading this thread, guns are almost certainly not how they are going to die. JohnM said there isn't a limit on the amount of bandwidth available on the political front. That is just plain not true IMO. How many conversations can two people have at the same time? One. How many national agenda items can we make progress on? Apparently, not even one (the Cliff). We will talk about gun control and not talk about universal health care. We will talk about mass shootings and not mass poisonings from GMO. We will talk about gun bans and not talk about our protracted war where we are creating a generation of people with mental health issues from combat stress. More than a million people will die this year, not from gun violence, but "health care violence" (including mental and physical causes) but because there is no trigger man - no amount of reason will make us chose health care over guns debates which have huge constitutional barriers and a chance of becoming law equal to almost zero. Here is what we as a country should be afraid of...:. Heart disease: 599,413 Cancer: 567,628 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 137,353 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,842 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 118,021 Alzheimer's disease: 79,003 Diabetes: 68,705 Influenza and Pneumonia: 53,692 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,935 Intentional self-harm (suicide): 36,909 cdc.gov