To: Greg or e who wrote (1181 ) 12/24/2012 10:42:55 AM From: Solon Read Replies (2) | Respond to "...you have some sort of actual credentials" Of course. I am eminently qualified to diagnose psychological problems and to assist in the remediation and the healing. But that would be none of your business! Let us make it clear: You are a RAT--pure and simple, gregoree “I do not have a clue what they did 2500 years ago except as I examine the research of those who are qualified in cultural anthropology.” --Solon Message 28599234 “you are a hypocrite for complaining with one breath about people making unqualified psychoanalytic statements” Hardly! All my sources were qualified to speak to the subject matter and draw conclusions. All the evidence pointed conclusively to many undisputed facts on which Scholars agree. Scholars agree that the culture of pederasty dominated the Grecian city states for about 1000 years. Scholars agree that the practice was ubiquitous. Scholars agree that the practice varied greatly from city to city and from area to area. In Sparta, it was pretty much mandatory to have an erotic affair with a youth and to mentor and guide him. But to be unchaste was to invite self exile or moral suicide. This was one extreme. There was also the practice of Intercrural sex which seemed to be common. And although it was supposedly rare, it appears that some city states allowed the practice of anal intercourse. Scholars also agree that as the arch stone of their culture, it was the center of much philosophical, political, and educational debate as to just how the relationship should be structured to provide maximum benefit and value to the youth who was being guided into adulthood. Scholars also agree that the relationship had to be outside the family and that the father had to approve--much like fathers today approve their daughters relationships--at least in some modern cultures. Scholars also agree that the classical and the ACADEMIC meaning of pederast is just as the word means and as it was lived for 1000 years of Greek history--love between a mature man and an adolescent--NOT IN ANY WAY LIMITED TO ANAL INTERCOURSE! For centuries, Christians burned and destroyed thousands of books relating to Greek culture and now some modern lay definitions have taken to adding the addendum, “ESPECIALLY’ anal intercourse”. For modern times saying “especially” might not be totally dishonest as it does not remove the true meaning but merely emphasises that modern homosexuality probably lacks most of the philosophical and cultural considerations of the original pederasts. "I do not have a clue what they did 2500 years ago except as I examine the research of those who are qualified in cultural anthropology." --Solon Greek pederasty, as idealized by the Greeks from Archaic times onward, was a relationship and bond between an adolescent boy and an adult man outside of his immediate family, and was constructed as an aristocratic moral and educational institution. As such, it was seen by the Greeks as an essential element in their culture from the time of Homer onwards.”[1] “you and your "friend" are the only bigots on this thread” You keep thinking that people don’t like you because you are not “friends”. Listen, Sport. There are 3 people on this thread. The only one I have met, the only one I know…is myself. The reason you feel like an outsider is because you are a dishonest and immoral person who attacks character like a vicious rat in order to make up the deficiencies of an ignorant and superstitious belief system that embarrasses you--but which you are too weak and impotent to disown. How many years ago did I challenge you to meet with me and back up your Rat Mouth?? And you still whine like a pewling pup over it? Have you ever considered getting a life, Sport? Heterosexuality Solon: Has stated many times that he has always been heterosexual and would never have it any other way! Attitude to Rights and Freedoms Solon: Has stated repeatedly that he fully supports the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the fundamental rights of people to choose their sexual lifestyle. Attitude to homosexuality Solon: Has repeatedly declared it to be abnormal but not to be wrong or evil or even important. Attitude to Greek Culture Solon: Recognises that ancient Greek Culture was bisexual and that their sexuality is irrelevant as regards the wisdom and legacies they have left. He recognises that our democracy and our civilization rest firmly on the broad and manly shoulders of thousands of ancient Greek bisexuals! (like...gee!! Solon, Socrates, Plato...or Elton John--how to decide!) -g-
