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To: unclewest who wrote (2728)	12/28/2012 12:20:13 PM
From: Triffin	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 125060

"I may not agree with some cuts, but that is not as important as making substantial cuts in spending." Unfortunately, in Washington DC , "substantial cuts in spending" , doesn't mean what we think it does .. To my knowledge there has never been a federal program that spent fewer taxpayer dollars on a year over year basis .. In Washington a "substantial cut" is accomplished by reducing the "growth rate of spending" .. Sad but true .. Triff ..

To: unclewest who wrote (2728)	12/28/2012 9:30:37 PM
From: ManyMoose	8 Recommendations Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 125060

On your recommendation I went to see "Lincoln" today. I had the following impressions: War is unspeakable hell. Civil War is an order of magnitude worse. The movie did not glamorize the Civil War like so often happens. There weren't many action scenes, and the battlefield scenes were 'after' the battle--not in a green pasture ala "The Patriot." Daniel Day-Lewis WAS Lincoln. I don't think it could be played better. Although Lincoln was an educated man some of his lines sounded like a country hick--I simply don't know if that is historically accurate. Day-Lewis adopted a rather squeeky voice--again, I don't know if that is historically accurate. Seward was ably played by David Strathairn. He's one of my favorites. The movie did not pander to any group or belief that I could tell. The politicians all sounded like today's politicians on steroids, which is to say most of them were dedicated to "the art of the possible" and also their own self-interest. I don't think today's politicians are so animated in their relations with other politicians, which is why the actors were more convincing than real politicians. The movie was driven by the script, and every line was important. I missed enough to convince me to watch this movie several more times in order get the characters and issues straight. Like "Saving Private Ryan" this movie was very emotional, but spared us most of the unspeakable carnage visited on each other by the north and south. What it showed was quite enough, and it was devastating. We didn't need to see the men get shot up or blown to pieces with a bunch of special effects. Seeing that they had been shot up and blown up was enough. I'm an old man, but I found tears rolling down my face at Appomattox, and they didn't stop until the credits rolled. This movie drove home to me how damn lucky--no, blessed by Providence--we are to live in this country and to have men like Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, and the others. It made me very proud and appreciative of being an American. By God, we should appreciate them and all those who fought to keep us free. Lee's Surrender was deliberately underplayed. I had always imagined it to be a short sit-down meeting at Appomattox. But the movie showed Grant acknowledging his great opponent with grace and honor by removing his hat, followed by his officers. Lee said nothing but tipped his hat and backed Traveler up and went home. Lincoln was quite the story teller and joke teller as depicted in this movie. I really appreciated the joke he told about the portrait of George Washington in the outhouse because Washington would make an Englishman "sh1t" faster than any other. General impressions: Script--superb Costuming--superb Make-up--superb Set--superb Casting--superb Acting--superb Although this is a weekday and I went to the showing at 12:15, the theater was almost full, except for the four rows of seats up front that are really too close for anybody. The audience was very quiet and respectful. I heard chuckling at some of the lines and jokes, and did a bit of that myself. I half expected the audience to break out in applause but they filed out quietly after the movie was over. I stayed to watch the credits and enjoy the music. A great many people worked on this movie, and they have every right to be proud as hell.