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To: cosmicforce who wrote (212954)	12/29/2012 12:11:15 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541542

"Has there ever been a society where hooligans and other low function people became learned scholars?" During the late 18th and 19th centuries, large numbers of convicts were transported to the various Australian penal colonies by the British government. One of the primary reasons for the British settlement of Australia was the establishment of a penal colony to alleviate pressure on their overburdened correctional facilities. Over the 80 years more than 165,000 convicts were transported to Australia. [1] en.wikipedia.org Promoting excellence in Australian science science.org.au

To: cosmicforce who wrote (212954)	12/29/2012 12:22:32 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541542

<<Wouldn't it be nice - but I'm really skeptical. I wish what you were saying were true. It sounds like sunbeams and lollypops. Has there ever been a society where hooligans and other low function people became learned scholars? >. Yes, my society! What I just described to you was my life. My society. I just got a Christmas card from my cousin Ronnie. We grew up together and were two weeks apart in age. My brother and his sisters never finished high school. My brother 8th grade, his sisters about the same and both got pregnant young-15 and ? We and many of our friends went to the local community college after high school. His parents wanted him to get a job instead. He got his PHD in entomology and is a world famous authority on spiders. Many if not most of my friends went on to get BA degrees at least. Few stopped at an AA. I studied with these average folks all the time. We all did fine as I keep point out. And it wasn't even that tough. We were fine with C's and we were able to get those and still work and party hardy, so we had gas left in the tank. But we all organized out lives to do what was necessary to get through. I don't remeber anyone not making it because they couldn't. I lived it. How much more real does it need to be to be true? By the way if you google Richmond California you will find it is the 6th most dangerous city in the country. I spent my life avoiding gangs. Once I had the "shockers" toughest gang in richmond at teh time out for me as I broke up with the presidents sister. I met that guy later at the community college and he apologized.