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To: Alighieri who wrote (690860)	1/1/2013 5:22:41 PM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 1576159

C'mon dude....there's no relationship between elites like David Gregory and the peons...wise up man!

To: Alighieri who wrote (690860)	1/1/2013 6:01:51 PM
From: tejek	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1576159

How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths C'mon dude....there's no relationship between gun pervasiveness and gun death...wise up man! That's right........if we had security guards in schools, movie theaters, shopping malls, offices etc like the Rs so desperately want, we would be a police state but we would be safe. Remember Newtown!

To: Alighieri who wrote (690860)	1/9/2013 3:47:54 AM
From: Bilow	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576159

Hi Alighieri; Re: "C'mon dude....there's no relationship between gun pervasiveness and gun death...wise up man!" The article does not claim that there is no relationship. In fact, it stated that Japan has an extremely low gun death rate. I don't see how you could fail to see this from the article. Did you even read it before commenting? The point of the article is that Japan achieved this by allowing their police freedoms to do things that the police in the US are not allowed. Chicago already has very strict gun laws. The problem is that they're not enforced. If we were to follow the Japanese method, we would simply let the police go into houses of people suspected to be trouble makers and let them confiscate the things they find there (guns and anything else). We would change our Constitution so that the evidence found from these sorts of searches would be legal to use in court. And we would let the police torture accused criminals until the vast majority of them confessed to their crimes. And then, like Japan, we would achieve a very peaceful (polices state) society. Read the details here: davekopel.com That Japan is a police state where the police torture accused criminals to obtain confessions is well known, for example, see the wikipedia article on the subject (which has plenty of references): en.wikipedia.org Here's a BBC article on the subject: 'Forced confessions' in Japan The Japanese have one of the lowest crime rates in the developed world. But 99% of all people accused of breaking laws here are found guilty. If you are innocent but accused of a crime, unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, there are few safeguards to protect you. news.bbc.co.uk -- Carl P.S. In short, the Japanese solution to achieving a peaceful society is to give full power to the police. This is a right-wing heaven. Doing things as we've always done in the US will result in the same results we've always had here. From my point of view, I'd rather have the risk of violence than the certainty of living in a police state.