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To: tejek who wrote (692886)1/15/2013 4:28:57 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577905
 
>>>"I don't want to see teachers carrying guns as part of their teaching duties. If you insist on planting false representations of my position (which I have iterated repeatedly for you), then correcting your false statements becomes unnecessarily tedious but I will do that as often as needed."

>>"Uh......you said it again right here:"

>>What I have stated is that most teachers are not suited for the responsibility but there are enough teachers and related school staff who are that it would make a positive impact on the threats we are facing simply to authorize them to carry as a matter of choice, without the need for massive government forces being deployed throughout the nation to guard schools.

False: That statement is nothing of the sort. We authorized teachers to do all kinds of things that are not duties. They are authorized smoke cigarettes in designated areas. We authorize them to wear casual clothing. That is a matter of choice, some choose to wear suit and tie. We have authorized them to bring guest speakers into the classroom, which is a matter of choice not a duty except in some specialized courses. We authorize them to teach with special accommodations (See Americans with Disabilities Act). We don't force people to stay in their wheel chairs as a teaching duty.

"Show me where teachers want to carry as part of the their teaching duties."

Your use of the term 'teaching duties' is ambiguous to some extent, not to mention you are couching it as a wanted duty, which is not the issue. You are presenting it as something like a requirement, although you leave room for plausible deniability. The term duty, however, implies teachers carrying a gun would be saddled with a professional obligation to use it in the performance of their job, which is not the case. You ignored the following paragraph of my post, which clarified that point. Teachers may do lots of things that are not couched as a teaching duty. I don't view carrying a gun as a duty in this regard, I view it as a right to choose, likewise as a choice to use if needed:

"I would oppose any requirement that they carry but support the choice. I would also make confidentiality a condition with regards to who is and isn't authorized, except a security officer responsible for coordinating emergency procedures and emergency response teams for the school district. It should not be a condition of hire or retention of teachers."

I also don't see any reason why local school districts can't make this decision for themselves, and just say 'screw you' to the anti-gun lobby.



To: tejek who wrote (692886)1/15/2013 6:25:02 AM
From: jlallen2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577905
 



To: tejek who wrote (692886)1/15/2013 11:16:10 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 1577905
 
GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control

Read more: dailycaller.com

Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.

Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.” (RELATED: Levin: If Obama sidesteps Congress on debt ceiling, ‘no choice’ but impeachment)

Read more: dailycaller.com