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To: combjelly who wrote (693897)	1/19/2013 8:41:59 PM
From: Bilow	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575626

Hi combjelly; Re: "As to a significant number of military defectors, you have got to be kidding. Sure, it is possible, but so is a meteorite of solid blue-white diamond slamming down in my backyard." No meteorite of solid blue-white diamond has ever slammed down in anyone's backyard. On the other hand, the US has a history of desertions in conflicts fought on US soil. During the Civil War a large fraction of the officers of the US Army either wouldn't fight, or chose to fight for the South. You probably didn't know that the US military has units which have a history of fighting against the US. Here's some of the battle flags for the US 141st Infantry Regiment, now based in San Antonio: Civil War (Confederate Service) Shiloh Peninsula Second Manassas Sharpsburg Fredericksburg Gettysburg Vicksburg Chickamauga Chattanooga Wilderness Spotsylvania Cold Harbor Petersburg Appomattox Texas 1861 Virginia 1861 Mississippi 1862 New Mexico 1862 Texas 1862 Virginia 1862 Mississippi 1863 Tennessee 1863 Texas 1863 Louisiana 1864 Texas 1864 Texas 1865 en.wikipedia.org So you shouldn't count on all those 3 million men listed as "US Military" to fight under orders from Washington. But I don't think it would come to a fight. I think that if Texas left again, the US would let them go peacefully. Few people in the blue states have the desire to fight. I've seen them commenting on this issue. They think that without the red states, the blue states would be more wealthy. And they could win all the elections. Of course, they would soon discover that if you're not a superpower you can't expect to be able to run a welfare state by letting the rest of the world pay for it through a combination of trade deficits and budget deficits paid for with a fiat currency printed in huge volumes. Then Greece. And what happens when an empire separates peacefully? The military forces are split as well. Remember the Soviet Union? Go read what happened to their nuclear weapons that were based in their former state Ukraine. Or go look at how the Czechoslovakian military was split into Czech and Slovak parts. Re: "So we are not facing a temporary loss of our ability to avoid the government spying on us, monitoring our communications and tracking our every move. It is an essentially permanent state of affairs." I agree with you 100% on this. All of our losses of freedom amount to the same thing, the desire for safety at the expense of freedom. This applies to the gun grabbers as much as it does to the patently illegal spying and information gathering. And the same thing applies also to things like health. Farmers are getting arrested for selling milk across state lines without pasteurizing. All in the name of safety. Ben Franklin said it best, "If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both." -- Carl