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To: Lee Bush who wrote (9658)12/3/1997 3:04:00 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Thank you for the historical footnotes...how is it that jews are the only group referred to in the term, "anti-semitic"? And why "anti-semitic"...as opposed to just the term, anti-jew?



To: Lee Bush who wrote (9658)12/3/1997 5:18:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
"The false teaching of the Church centered around the concept that Jews were responsible for the death of Christ. They were "Christ killers".

The Scriptures and the Apostles themselves tell us in numerous places that the antichirst Jews and their leaders were responsible for the Crucifixion of Christ. The fact is, modern Talmudic Judaism still approves of the killing and Crucifixion of the Son of God even to our day. The Talmudic Orthodox schools teach this daily.

Much of your writing on modern Talmudic Judaism is false and nonsensical Jewish fables.

Although the antichrist Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus on a worldly leve., it is true that it was the sins of all of mankind that were the true cause of the crucifixion of the Son of God. In essence, we are all responsbile for the crucifixion of Jesus because it is our individual sins that put Him on the cross. The antichrist Jews had the difficult responsbility of standing in the place of all of mankind and with all of mankinds sins, and crying, CRUCIFY HIM, CRUCIFY HIM. It is the fundamental cry of every sinner in rebellion against God.
That does not mean, however, that we start mouthing the distorted and antichirst Jewish fables that says that they were not the human agent responsible for pulling the trigger. Also, everyone who follows the blasphemous and antichrist Talmud gives a nod of agreement to the crucifixion of the Son of God.
When Peter was preaching his famous sermon in Acts, thousands of Jews were converted when they realized that they had crucified the Son of God.



To: Lee Bush who wrote (9658)12/5/1997 3:23:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
">>>The false teaching of the Church centered around the concept that Jews were
responsible for the death of Christ. They were "Christ killers".
This is refruted plainly by our Lord in John 10:18. "No man taketh it from me, but I
lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it up
again.">>>

Sadly enough Lee there are many false Teachings within the Christian church, the above one that you mention is much more convoluted than it appears.

They were in fact, only part of the total. They did in fact play a major role (there were none innocent among them) in the crucifixion of our Lord. This cannot be denied! They were instruments of God just as was Pharaoh was, who held the Israelites in bandage for 400+ years. But there was in fact a Pharoah, and he did in fact hold the Israelites in bandage.

They, those who had Jesus put to death, were the ones who continually attempted to trap and slay our Lord. They were the ones yellling in the crowd "crucify Him, Crucify Him"....So who were they?

John 7:19
19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?.

Our Lord Alo said:
Matt 17:22-23
22 And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:
23 And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.

Just who were the instruments used by God to commit this dastardly deed?
They were not of the tribe of Judah.

Consider very diligently Christ's words;
Rev 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Also an in depth study of John 8:31-55 In coordination with the parable of the tares, and husbandmen along with Matt.23 also consider Jeremiah 24.

Why were we commanded by our Lord to leave the Tares alone? Why are the reapers to handle them and not us?

In depth word studies to their prime would include, but are in no way limited to:
1.of # 1537
2.seed
3.vipers
4.Kenite
5.beguiled
6.serpents
7.children as it is used in Matt.13:38

Just for starters my friend..... I believe your instincts are on to something.

Have a good weekend
Shalom...><>
Gen 3:14-15
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.