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To: combjelly who wrote (695530)	1/26/2013 8:18:04 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1575427

If Luntz made up the phrase in 2002, how did he get liberals and climate alarmists to start using it? Jelly's claim comes from a letter to the editor of The Oregonian: blog.oregonlive.com

To: combjelly who wrote (695530)	1/26/2013 8:27:39 PM
From: TopCat	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575427

"That's a funny story. It was a consultant who specializes in how people react emotionally to certain words." Ah....CJ, you never disappoint. Now, one more related question and, of course, you will have the answer. Why haven't liberals resurrected "global warming?"

To: combjelly who wrote (695530)	1/26/2013 8:49:43 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575427

>> He was also responsible for the phrase "death tax". Nonsense. The term was commonly used in the 80s.

To: combjelly who wrote (695530)	1/28/2013 11:02:26 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575427

Hi combjelly; Re the change "global warming" -> "climate change". I don't think this was driven by political considerations. At roughly the same time, the "Medieval Warm Period" got renamed as "Medieval Climate Anomaly". In both cases, it was recognized that the earth's climate is exceedingly complicated with a lot of influence between one region and another. For example, there's a strong correlation between the temperatures in Greenland and the monsoon in India. So when some places get warmer, other places get cooler (or wetter or drier, or more windy, or warmer in summer and cooler in winter, or wet summers, etc.) The correlations are fantastically complicated. So the original science was that "CO2 will cause the earth to warm". This has been replaced with "CO2 will cause the earth's climate to change". The warming is only a small part of the change. In fact, the easiest change to document in most places are changes in rainfall. -- Carl