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To: gizwick who wrote (50720)1/31/2013 1:52:08 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78598
 
Perhaps people who don't want discussion and critique of their suggestions should add:

"No critique please"

or

"Just posting my idea, no critique and no discussion please"

at the end of their posts.

That way we would know that they are not interested in feedback. Would be easier for everyone. :)



To: gizwick who wrote (50720)1/31/2013 1:56:02 PM
From: Paul Senior3 Recommendations  Respond to of 78598
 
gizwick. I'm sorry you feel this way, and I hope I am not part of the reason you want to leave. Your record here seems to be stellar, as I've said. I don't know exactly what you mean by "a group so critical of anyones ideas". We're a diverse group with diverse opinions on what is a value stock. Most of the time if, there's criticism, it's about the stock, not so much about the person posting.

Regarding "everything brought up is deemed not viable": I see two ways in "deeming not viable". A stock suggestion is completely ignored (a "plop"), or there's some negative response. There seems to me to be a trade-off on posts here. On the one hand, some people have complained that they post on a particular stock and they get no feedback, so they say it's a waste because what's the point of posting if no one reads/cares/responds/takes any interest? With that in mind, I kind of felt that at this point, you maybe didn't get the kind of responses (positive posts) you might have expected on the stocks you mentioned that went up or that you were bringing to the thread. On your last post about BGCP, I waited a bit to see if there were any comments, and I decided there should be some acknowledgement of your post. So I posted why the stock was not for me because I didn't comprehend the business situation. I implied though that the stock pick could very well be yet another winner for you or for anyone who followed you and/or understood the situation. I don't see that my post to you is being "so critical of anyone's ideas".

I appreciate that you' may have done quite a bit of research on the stocks you have posted on. I don't recall people being "so critical" of your stock ideas that you would be offended or insulted by their responses though. As far as any of your stock suggestions being implicitly deemed not viable (because of no response), we're a diverse bunch on SI and one person's pick may not be suitable or fit what anyone else is looking for. More than sometimes, I have found that the "no response" stock ideas turn out to be the best stocks.

As far as being "critical of anyone" else's ideas, some people should be able to take the criticism. If they hold themselves out as being or wanting to be professional investors or paid writers, they put themselves out in the marketplace and so they should expect to take a little heat sometimes. And if people post off-topic stuff, there's criticism for that too. This thread holds is a kind of Ben Graham value thread; I don't believe Dr. Graham ever counseled shorting stocks. So for anyone who posts about a specific short, there might be some not entirely positive feedback on this thread.

I'm sorry you're not getting what you want or expect from this thread. I'll miss your stock ideas if you leave!

Paul Senior



To: gizwick who wrote (50720)1/31/2013 3:56:58 PM
From: MCsweet1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78598
 
Gizwick,

In case you missed, I gave you a big thumbs up on BFCF at the end of my post on STRZQ.
Message 28575435

I think it would be good both for you and for us to keep posting. A good response is encouraging, but a negative response is what is most useful to me. Understanding why people don't like the stock that I like really helps me determine whether I am on target or not. Did I miss some key analysis or is everyone just taking a superficial look at the stock and passing on it?

If the later, I have a ton more confidence on my pick. As long as your ego can stomach it, I say the more negative feedback the better. For the most part, I have learned to put aside my ego in pursuit of profit. And some of the people that have annoyed me the most have given me the best insights.

MC



To: gizwick who wrote (50720)2/2/2013 9:41:31 AM
From: Madharry  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78598
 
I am glad that you are having a profitable year. Most people bring their ideas to to see if perhaps they missed something in their analysis. You have a diferent reason . thats ok too. I concur with the notion that if you dont want any criticism just say so. and im sure people will be respectful of that. Just so you know a share price going up doesnt neccessarily mean you were correct in assessing a company. i have had several stocks soar only to plunge and go the way of Enron and Worldcom. All the best.