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To: SilentZ who wrote (696454)	1/31/2013 8:12:48 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576835

Z, It's not about you. You realize how much of the center of America has had historic droughts in the last year? It's not going to be easy to adapt to when we can't grow food in the areas that we normally do. I mean, maybe the U.S. will make it work because we have guns and money, but Jesus, hundreds of millions of people could die. In fact, it seems likely that that will happen in the next century. Are those hundreds of millions just not trying hard enough to adapt? Let's get one thing straight. Natural disasters, droughts, and disappearing farmland has occurred throughout all of recorded history. Hundreds of millions, if not billions, have died as a result. None of this was brought about with the advent of global warming. You may argue that it could be happening a little more often, but that's a hard case to prove, even then it's a weak basis for drastic anti-CO2 regulations like the kind environmentalists think we should adopt. Three months ago, I couldn't get to work for ten days thanks to the worst hurricane NYC's ever seen. Give it ten years and that very well could be the norm. Hurricane Katrina was supposed to be the "new normal." We haven't seen another Hurricane Katrina since. Even Sandy didn't compare. Tenchusatsu

To: SilentZ who wrote (696454)

1/31/2013 9:15:36 PM

From: Brumar89

1 Recommendation Respond to of 1576835

Droughts were worse in the 1930's and CO2 was supposedly at a 'safe' level then.

" hundreds of millions of people could die" And alarmist scientists told us in the 1970's that was going to happen decades ago and it didn't. Tell the third world they can't have fossil fuel powered plants and vehicles and can't sell the fossil wealth their countries have...... that will create unnecessary poverty.

BTW Sandy wasn't the worst hurricane NY ever saw:

1821 Storm Surge Drowned Lower Manhattan

Posted on October 31, 2012 by stevengoddard

Reaching the City on September 3, 1821, the storm was one of the only hurricanes believed to have passed directly over parts of modern New York City. The tide rose 13 feet in one hour and inundated wharves, causing the East River to converge into the Hudson River across lower Manhattan as far north as Canal Street. However, few deaths were attributed to the storm because flooding was concentrated in neighborhoods with far fewer homes than exist today.

NYC Hazards: NYC Hurricane History

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	Early New York Hurricanes 1821 HURRICANE Reaching the City on September 3, 1821, the storm was one of the only hurricanes believed to have passed directly over parts of modern New York City. The tide rose 13 feet in one hour and inundated wharves, causing the East River to converge into the Hudson River across lower Manhattan as far north as Canal Street. However, few deaths were attributed to the storm because flooding was concentrated in neighborhoods with far fewer homes than exist today. 1893 HURRICANE In 1893, a category 1 hurricane destroyed Hog ISLAND, a resort ISLAND off the Rockaways in southern Queens. Waves striking a seawall, 1938 (NWS Historic Collection) 1938 HURRICANE The most powerful hurricane known to have made landfall nearby — a category 3 hurricane — occurred in 1938. Its eye crossed over LONG ISLAND and into New England, killing nearly 200 people. The storm killed 10 people in New York City and caused millions of dollars in damage. Its floods knocked out electrical power in all areas above 59th Street in Manhattan and in all of the Bronx, the new IND subway line lost power, and 100 large trees in Central Park were destroyed. Fortunately, New York City experienced the weaker "left side" of the 1938 hurricane — the City was 75 miles from the eye when it passed over LONG ISLAND. The hurricane could have caused far more deaths and damage if it passed closer to the five boroughs. An excellent history of the 1938 hurricane is provided at Scott Mandia's website: The LONG ISLAND Express: The Great Hurricane of 1938. Mid-Twentieth Century CAROL In 1954, Hurricane Carol made landfall in Eastern LONG ISLAND and Southeastern Connecticut. With sustained winds over 100 mph and gusts of 115 to 125 mph, it was the most destructive hurricane to hit the Northeast coast since the LONG ISLAND EXPRESS in 1938. Fortunately for City residents, the storm's track was forty miles further east, and spared it a direct hit, but did result in major flooding throughout the City. DONNA In 1960, Hurricane Donna created an 11-foot storm tide in the New York Harbor that caused extensive pier damage. Major Hurricane Tracks, 1951-1960 (Historic NWS Collection) CONNIE & DIANE Leftover rains from hurricanes Diane and Connie caused significant flooding in the City in August 1955, even though the eye of those storms did not cross directly over any of the five boroughs. Diane caused more than 200 deaths in Pennsylvania, New York and New Jersey. Connie dropped more than 12 inches of rain at LaGuardia Airport. AGNES In June 1972, Tropical Storm Agnes fused with another storm system in the northeastern U.S., flooding areas from North Carolina to New York State, causing 122 deaths and more than $6 billion dollars in damage (when adjusted for inflation). GLORIA The US Army Corps of Engineers has said that 1985's Hurricane Gloria could have been catastrophic if it arrived at high tide and just a little closer to the City. Recent Hurricanes Many hurricane experts say the Atlantic Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico have begun to spin off more frequent and destructive hurricanes than in previous decades. Tropical storms have been on the rise since 1995, and a record 15 hurricanes made their way into the North Atlantic in 2005. NOAA GOES Satellite Photo of Hurricane Floyd, September 16, 1999 FELIX Hurricane Felix lingered off the East Coast for nearly a week in 1995, menacing the northeastern US before it finally drifted out to sea. BERTHA A weakening Tropical Storm Bertha brought heavy rain to the City in July 1996. EDOUARD Hurricane Edouard veered out to sea after tracking toward New York City around Labor Day 1996. FLOYD In September 1999, Tropical Storm Floyd brought sustained 60 mph winds and dumped 10-15 inches of rain on upstate New Jersey and New York State over a 24-hour period. Flash flooding from this tropical storm — one of the most powerful to affect New York City in a decade — forced hundreds of people to leave their homes in counties just outside the five boroughs. Floyd caused New York City's schools to close for the first time since 1996 and led the city to open emergency storm shelters as a precautionary measure. IRENE In August 2011, Hurricane Irene was downgraded to a tropical storm right before it made landfall in New York City. In preparation the City issued the first-ever mandatory evacuation of coastal areas on August 26, 2011. The evacuation encompassed 370,00 residents living in evacuation zone A, the entire Rockaway Peninsula, and 34 health care facilities located in evacuation zone B. The city sheltered 10,000 evacuees at 81 shelters. The rest stayed with family and friends outside the evacuation zones. Irene dropped up to seven inches of rain across the city and brought winds of 65 mph. The storm cost the city an estimated $100 million in damages. More than 8,000 residents were approved for $13.6 million in federal disaster assistance to help with the recovery. Read more on U.S. Hurricane History at the National Hurricane Center website.