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To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/7/2013 4:32:04 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573226
 
>> But that doesn't happen to be the case.

I think it does.

I'm not for more violence, but these people tend to prey on others when they think they're the only ones with weapons, and a lot of innocent people die as a result. That's what the "drive by" shooting is all about -- difficulty in retaliation.

It would only take a few rapists in Memphis getting their brains blown out to reduce the level of rape.

It would only take a few 17 year olds on Canal street getting shot dead by someone they tried to hold up before they started to think twice about how much sense it makes to take on a site-seer who may be carrying a weapon of his or her own.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/7/2013 5:53:01 PM
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Utah Store Owner Pulls Gun on Knife Wielding Robber – Who Drops Knife and Flees (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, February 7, 2013, 8:26 AM




A Utah store owner bought a gun several years ago but never had to use it. Then last week a would-be robber came into the store brandishing a knife. The store owner pulled out his gun, told the robber to drop his knife and watched him flee.

KSL reported:
“I pulled out my gun and I said, ‘Just leave your knife here and leave the store.’ And he left.”
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Guns Saves Lives has more.

A convenience store owner in Utah says he has kept a pistol handy for five years for protection.

The first time he had to reach for it was on Monday when a knife wielding man walked into the store and demanded money.

The owner drew his pistol and said, “I pulled out my gun and I said, ‘Just leave your knife here and leave the store.’ And he left.”

The suspect was arrested at a nearby Kentucky Fried Chicken shortly after the attempted robbery.

Yet another example of a defensive gun use that will not be included in most statistics or studies because no shots were fired and no one was killed.



thegatewaypundit.com



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/7/2013 5:56:15 PM
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Thomasville police say a man fatally shot his daughter’s boyfriend while he was assaulting her, but the shooting was ruled to be an act of defense.
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http://myfox8.com/2013/02/07/police-man-fatally-shot-daughters-boyfriend-during-assault/



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/8/2013 1:23:44 PM
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Home Intruders Make Fatal Mistake Of Breaking Into Armed 72-year-old Man's Home

A 72-year-old homeowner immediately retrieved his handgun when he heard several home intruders attempting to gain entry to his Las Vegas residence early Monday morning. And when the criminals entered his bedroom, he opened fire, killing one of the suspects and sending the rest fleeing, KLAS-TV reports.

“Several intruders, had gotten into the home, entered his bedroom and he fired at least one shot, and they fled,” Metro Police Officer Bill Cassell said. “It is unusual, first of all, to have multiple people burglarizing a residence, especially when they are carrying weapons.”

When police eventually arrived at the Las Vegas home, they found one of the intruders trying to escape in a car. The car hit a patrol car and then the suspect attempted to flee on foot, however, police were able to take the man into custody.

A second suspect, described as a Latin male, was last seen running from the neighborhood where the attempted robbery took place. He remains at large. Police found a third male, armed with a handgun, dead in the homeowner’s backyard. The cause of death was determined to be a gunshot wound.

The incident was the second time in three days that a homeowner in Las Vegas had used a firearm during an attempted burglary and fired at an intruder.

The elderly homeowner, identified as Dr. Joseph Piracci, is also a recent burglary victim. Police say charges against Piracci are not expected.

Read more: http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=10780250#ixzz2KKimCqPo

Whenver a citizen successfully defends himself against a criminal attack, a Democrat loses and a Republican wins.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/8/2013 5:43:27 PM
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Successful Weapons Ban
Posted on February 8, 2013by stevengoddard
During the years following the 1938 gun ban in Germany, the crime rate among Jews dropped to almost zero.







Middlesboro Daily News - Nov 12, 1938

stevengoddard.wordpress.com




To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/9/2013 3:36:07 PM
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Crowd packs heat; Oak Harbor backs down

BY Chris Sullivan on February 6, 2013

Oak Harbor is on an island in Puget Sound. No wonder tejek won't go outside.


There were handguns in holsters and rifles slung over shoulders and an unknown number of people concealing their weapons as the Oak Harbor City Council met. (AP Photo/File)

It's been three weeks since an Oak Harbor city councilmember started a national controversy by trying to kick out a wounded Army veteran who was legally carrying a weapon during a council meeting. Councilmember Rick Almberg then walked out. The council was met by 160 people Tuesday night, many who were packing heat. There were handguns in holsters and rifles slung over shoulders and an unknown number of people concealing their weapons as the Oak Harbor City Council met. Many attended the meeting to show support for veteran Lucas Yonkman who Councilmember Almberg tried to have kicked out of City Hall last month, including Joe Hawkins who openly mocked him. "Mr. Almberg I just want you to know that I have a concealed ham sandwich right here I don't want you to get up and walk away," he chuckled. Most attended the meeting to oppose the city's ban on guns in parks and the marina. The Second Amendment Foundation had threatened to sue if the ordinance wasn't overturned. Sandy Peterson spoke out against the ordinance. "If the city council members are intimidated by people exercising their Second Amendment rights to bear arms, perhaps they need to examine what it is about that that makes them uncomfortable," she said. William Frail had an M-1 rifle on his shoulder as he testified. "Sir, my mother was a Jew," he said. "My family went to the chambers. I will not go into the night quietly while these two ask me to board the train." But not everyone spoke in favor of overturning the ban. Shane Hoffmire doesn't believe having guns in parks is a good idea. "While I support the Second Amendment and citizen rights to bear arms, I strongly believe guns do not belong in public spaces," he said. Pam Fick also spoke out in support of the ban. "There are those here tonight who will argue that more guns in more hands and more places makes us safer," she said. "More guns in more hands and more places didn't make people safer. It just made people more dead." Lucas Yonkman, the man at the center of this gun debate in Oak Harbor, also addressed the council. "I come to you tonight with a heavy heart," Yonkman said. "I see a beautiful country divided and conflicted. I see a constitution being eroded, and the rights so many have fought and died for totally lost. I see men and woman who are elected leaders pushing personal agendas." Yonkman believes the answer to mass shootings and community violence will be found in treating those with mental illness, instead of taking guns away. The city council eventually voted to overturn the ban, which the interim city attorney had told the members was unconstitutional. The council did not call for the resignation of fellow member Almberg, which a few people had called for. After the meeting, he said he hopes the city can move past this and get onto more important business.

http://mynorthwest.com/11/2195317/Crowd-packs-heat-Oak-Harbor-backs-down



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/9/2013 3:44:16 PM
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Stephen King, Who Lives In A Mansion Paid For By A Book And Movie That Gleefully Depicts A Misfit Murdering Everyone In The Local School Over Taunts, Tries His Hand At Writing Humor And Says The NRA Is To Blame For Sandy Hook

http://rumfordmeteor.com/?p=9367

And people thought he couldn't write humor.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/9/2013 7:39:11 PM
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2 teen brothers shot while trying to rob 2 men working on public lighting pole

Two teenagers were shot when they tried to rob men working on a public lighting pole on Detroit’s west side Thursday night, according to Detroit police. The men, both 59, were in an alley between Cloverlawn and Northlawn, north of Schoolcraft, about 9 p.m. when the teens, who are 16-and 17-year-old brothers, pulled out a weapon and said they were robbing the men. One of the men, who has a license to carry a concealed pistol, shot both teens, police said. The teens were hospitalized, with the 16-year-old listed in critical condition and the 17-year-old listed in temporary-serious condition, police said. The men were questioned and released, and the teens are in police custody, police said. A weapon was recovered, but police did not say what kind it is.

Two future Criminal Democrat party voters lost and two Republicans won.

freep.com



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/9/2013 7:43:17 PM
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Alleged teen intruder dies after being shot by homeowner
PHOENIX -- A Valley teen died Friday after he allegedly broke into a Phoenix residence and was shot by the homeowner.

Phoenix Police said a man returned to his home in the area of 7500 W. Weldon late Friday morning to discover that his carport door was open.

The homeowner entered through his front door and discovered that his house had been ransacked.

As he entered the house, two suspects ran out the carport door. Two more suspects then ran from the bedroom area of the home, with one of the men, later identified as 16-year-old Mario Barcenas, reportedly running at the homeowner.

The homeowner was carrying a handgun at the time and shot Barcenas with one round.

The police were called to the home and Barcenas was taken to the hospital where he eventually died.

Police are still investigating the case, but said it appears as if the homeowner was acting in self-defense. No charges have currently been filed.

The three other suspects in the case have yet to be located.

Police ask anyone with any information to call the Phoenix Police Department Violent Crimes Bureau at 602-262-6141 or Silent Witness at 480-WITNESS or 480-TESTIGO for Spanish.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/teen-intruder-dies-after-being-shot-by-homeowner-190485621.html

Everytime a citizen defends himself from a criminal, Democrats lose and Repubilcans win. That's why liberals hate stories like this.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/17/2013 2:57:57 PM
From: Brumar893 Recommendations  Respond to of 1573226
 
Myrtle Beach robber tells woman "you're dead," runs off after victim pulls gun

MYRTLE BEACH, SC (WBTW) - A would-be robber's attempt to take money from a Myrtle Beach woman early Friday morning ended after the victim pulled a gun on the suspect.

According to a Myrtle Beach police report, a woman going to work parked her car at the front of The Bagel Factory on 20th Avenue North around 3 a.m. The victim told police a man then opened her door, demanded money and then pushed her further in the car.

The victim kicked the suspect and he then told her "You're dead," the report said.

At that point, the victim was able to reach inside her glove box, pull out a pistol and point it at the suspect, police said.

The suspect then ran away.

He is described at a white male, 5'10 and 140 pounds with a mustache. He was wearing a dark hooded sweatshirt, blue jeans and a gray bandana.

Police said the suspect left a dark ball cap and a silver lock-blade knife inside the car.

The woman was not injured during the assault.

www2.wbtw.com

Democrats would prefer that woman be dead. Everytime a citizen successfullly defends themselves against a criminal, a Democrat loses and a Republican wins.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/17/2013 3:05:15 PM
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Why I Became a Gun Rights Advocate



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by Cam Edwards 17 Feb 2013, 7:04 AM PDT

"Think of the children.” I’ve heard that a lot lately, or variations thereof. One woman recently chided me on Twitter with the following: “Imagine if you had kids! Think about others instead of your pocketbook suffering. You don't need automatic guns to shoot deer. I don’t have to imagine having kids. I actually have five of them, from a 26-year old daughter to 7-year old twins. Just like every gun-owning parent I know, I love them more than I love my firearms. And I know first hand that gun control laws like a ban on commonly owned firearms, tough restrictions for legal gun purchases, and even mandatory background checks on all gun sales won’t do a thing to protect my kids. I know this because my oldest two children spent years living in the crime-ridden hellhole of Camden, New Jersey.

I didn’t grow up in a household with guns. My parents divorced when I was eight, and despite my mom growing up in rural Oklahoma, she never expressed an interest in firearms. As a result, I was like most non-gun owners growing up; I didn’t think much about the issue of gun control at all. That changed when I was 22 years old and fell in love with a woman I met online.

Elaine was nine years older than I was, but that didn’t matter to me. She was a single mom of two, and that didn’t bother me either. We would talk on the computer for hours every night, and then spend hours more on the phone before drifting off to sleep for a few precious minutes of sleep. She regaled me with stories of life in Camden; the night a guy named Turtle came to her neighbor’s door and began firing shots randomly while she and the kids huddled on the floor. Elaine called 911 to report Turtle’s rampage, but the police never responded. Ever. Then there was the drugged out neighbor who lived upstairs and calmly sat on one end of her burning couch one afternoon, smoking a cigarette and waiting for the firefighters while the smoke from her smoldering furniture filled the room. It was hard for a guy who grew up in the suburbs of Oklahoma City to truly understand what life was like for her there in Camden… until the night I thought she’d been murdered.

It was a normal evening for us; we’d spent the first part of the night on the computer and then as the hour grew late I called her and lay on my bed as we talked about our future together. We were growing sleepy when I heard something I’d never heard before; the sound of gunshots. I knew they had to be close for me to hear them over the phone, and with some alarm I asked Elaine if she was okay. She didn’t answer.

I’ll never forget that helpless feeling when only silence greeted my voice. I grew louder, shouting into the phone, “Talk to me! Where are you? What’s going on? Elaine, answer me!!” I didn’t know her address, or I would have called the Camden Police Department to beg them to check on her and the kids. Instead, I sat helplessly. At some point I stupidly hung up the phone, and tried to call her back, but only got a busy signal.

It was the longest night of my life, spent pacing and chain smoking, tears streaming down my face as I begged God not to take her from me before I even had a chance to begin my life with her by my side. I prayed that her kids were safe, and I swore that if I had the chance, I would do my best to protect them from any harm.

As the sun rose over the Oklahoma City skyline, I decided to call her office once it opened. Maybe one of her co-workers could check on her. While I waited impatiently, I tried to search the internet for news of any overnight shootings in Camden, but couldn’t find any. In retrospect, I should have known I wouldn’t have. Shootings in Camden, home to some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, are so common that they’re never a big story.

As soon as I thought someone might be in her office, I dialed the number with trembling fingers. I thought about what I would say to the stranger who answered the phone, and wondered if I could even get through my request without breaking down in tears again. And then I didn’t have to wonder, because Elaine answered the phone.

I won’t get into the details of my reaction, except to say that yes, I cried again. She thought I was overreacting, because she had simply fallen asleep as we were talking. She didn’t even consciously hear the shots fired, because the sound was so common that she had learned to tune it out. And that was the moment I realized that it’s not just 911 that was a joke in her neighborhood. So was the idea that gun control had made Camden any safer.

I didn’t become a gun rights advocate that day, or even a gun owner. But from that moment forward, I’ve never believed that gun control laws make good people in bad neighborhoods any safer. If gun control worked, it would be the criminal waiting months to find a gun on the black market, while the law abiding zipped through the speedy process of legally acquiring a firearm. Instead, in gun control enclaves from Los Angeles to Chicago, D.C. to Camden, it’s the good people who are forced to wait, who are arbitrarily denied the exercise of their fundamental right to keep and bear arms, while the criminals easily get a hold of guns. And make no mistake; even in the worst neighborhoods, the good people far outnumber the criminals.

The thinking among gun control advocates is that by making it difficult to purchase guns legally, it will eventually become harder for criminals to obtain guns. They’ve been waiting for decades in Camden for a day that will never come. We’re told that the reason New Jersey’s gun control laws don’t work is because we need these same restrictions in place all around the country, but even on the small island of Puerto Rico, home to incredibly restrictive gun control laws, the homicide rate is more than 5 times that of the U.S. average.

Would Camden see its crime problem vanish if the state of New Jersey had truly reasonable gun laws in place? No. In fact, I’m not sure the crime rate would go down all that much, at least at first. But law-abiding individuals would at least have a fighting chance against the small number of violent criminals that make Camden such a dangerous place for everyone else. Single mothers shouldn’t have to cower in fear because the criminals rule their neighborhoods.

As for Elaine and the kids, they moved to Oklahoma City a few months later, and she and I were married that summer. We were still poor, but at least the neighborhood we lived in was crummy, rather than dangerous. It’s another fallacy that poor neighborhoods are inevitably going to be violent places. What’s primarily needed, at least from my own personal experience and reflection, are involved parents whose primary goal is to raise productive and worthwhile adults. Too many moms drugged out on their burning couch, too many dads simply out of the picture, and a well established gang culture complete with family memberships going back 3 and 4 generations are just a few of the challenges these high crime neighborhoods face. There’s also mistrust in the police (though anti-gun New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg seems thrilled with the city’s stop and frisk program that sure seems to target a lot of young black males for the suspicious behavior of being a young black male), a lack of prosecution (or the push for a plea deal) for many violent crimes, and a community that tolerates and accepts the violence, either from a misguided desire to protect the young men committing these crimes, or from the numbing apathy that comes from being told year after year by politicians that the next government program will be the one that fixes things.

Criminal justice professor David Kennedy wrote a fascinating book published in 2011 called, “Don’t Shoot: One Man, A Street Fellowship, and the End of Violence in Inner-City America.” He documents first hand what can be done to dramatically improve the lives of the individuals living in communities beset by violent crime, and it doesn’t involve gun control. In fact Kennedy’s proposals begin with the recognition that guns aren’t going anywhere any time soon, regardless of what you think about them. The key is getting community to buy in to tough enforcement of existing laws, as well as providing an escape route for gang members to turn their life around before more innocent lives are lost. Yes, it’s tough to do. But unlike another gun control law, it actually works.

Cam Edwards is the host of "Cam and Company," a daily show on NRANews.com, Sirius XM Patriot Radio and Sportsman Channel.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/17/Why-I-Became-Gun-Rights-Advocate

One thing OK City and Camden NJ have in common ... Democrats don't give a damn about the people living there.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/17/2013 4:56:01 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1573226
 
Shootout at Inkster (MI) tax preparation business caught on camera

Guard had AR15 and drove off armed robber


By Ron Savage, Fox 2 News - email

Surveillance video shows a man armed with a gun inside an Inkster tax preparation business.

INKSTER, Mich. (WJBK) - There is a manhunt underway after a gun slinging couple stormed into a tax preparation business. A security guard was shot and the dangerous duo is on the run.

"Just seeing that footage and knowing that it's two doors down, yeah, I have to get out of here immediately. It's time to go," said Lillie Heard.

She saw the chilling video of the shootout just two doors down from her home on Kean Street in Inkster. The house there has been converted into a tax preparation service. At 2:30 p.m. Thursday, even though a security vehicle was parked in the driveway, Bonnie and Clyde showed up to announce a holdup, but what they didn't know was they were about to get an AR-15 surprise.

The armed couple both had handguns. Surveillance video shows them being greeted at the door by the receptionist.
The business owner was sitting in a chair against the wall. The bad guy pointed his gun at the receptionist's head. The security guard in the office pulled out an AR-15 rifle. After the shootout, the security guard lunged to the door.

"The security guard that was inside returned fire, two shots at the suspect. Did not hit him. The suspects then fled the location," said Inkster Police Detective Lieutenant Jeffrey Smith.

The couple ran off in different directions. Police do not believe the man or the woman were wounded.

The security guard shot twice, once through a doorway and a round directly through a wall.

"There was quite a few people inside the location. Very lucky that nobody was seriously injured. The security guard did suffer a wound to the upper leg area, but he's going to be okay," Smith said.

myfoxdetroit.com



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/19/2013 7:26:57 AM
From: Brumar893 Recommendations  Respond to of 1573226
 
St. Louis “Knock-Out” Artist Meets His Match – Breaks Into Home and Is Shot Dead
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, February 18, 2013, 11:31 PM





In October 2011 Matt Quain was walking home from a local Schnuck’s grocery store when he was jumped by a gang in a “knock-out game” attack. Quain’s jaw was shattered. He had several broken bones on his face. He was nearly killed. St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay was the first person on the scene after Matt Quain was beaten unconscious by a mob of teens.

The thugs beat the victim with bricks on a busy St. Louis street.


Video | News | Weather | Sports Tue Oct 25 09:44:38 PDT 2011

Five juveniles charged in connection to ’knockout’ attack that left man with broken jaw Five juveniles have been charged in connection to a knockout attack that left a 51-year-old man with a broken jaw in south St. Louis on October 21. [url=]view full article[/url]



Later several of the teens were arrested including 13 year-old Demetrius Murphy but charges were dropped after a witness refused to show up in court.

On Friday, Demetrius Murphy was killed by a gun-owner after being involved in a burglary.
Demetrius was shot dead.
FOX 2 reported:

The teenager shot and killed by a homeowner while allegedly breaking into the man’s house had been in the news before. In fact, FOX2 has learned, he was once charged in the case that mad the phrase “knockout game” common in St. Louis.

Demetrius Murphy, 15, died Friday morning after he and another teen, Michael Bryant, allegedly tried to break into a man’s home on Tennessee. Police say the homeowner emerged with a gun. Bryant ran, but they say Murphy confronted him and was shot and killed.

When it happened, the ears of Matt Quain perked up. It was back in 2011 that Quain and a friend were walking along Grand, returning from a “beer run” to Schnucks, when they say a group of teens jumped them. Quain was beaten badly, suffering neck injuries and a broken jaw. He was discovered bleeding in the street by Mayor Francis Slay and his security guard.

Murphy, just thirteen at the time, was the one identified to Quian by authorities as his attacker. Sources tell Fox 2 that Murphy was headed to trial in the “knockout game” case, but a young witness suddenly refused to testify, forcing the charges to be dropped.

Quain sees what happened to Murphy as part of a circle of violence that needs to be stopped.

“Ya know, I’m not happy that somebody died,” he said Monday. “I just wish there was more that people could do to put an end to it. Whatever it takes, more cops, whatever.

“There needs to be more grassroots support to help people keep kids off the street. Involvement with parents and all like that.”


thegatewaypundit.com

Everytime a citizen successfully defends himself against a criminal, a Democrat loses and a Republican wins.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/20/2013 11:31:29 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Respond to of 1573226
 
... Dr. Gary Kleck, the nation's leading scholar on crime and firearms, began his research as a staunch gun control advocate. He is a member of the ACLU, Amnesty International USA, and Common Cause - certainly not someone who you would label as a conservative. He is not and has never been a member of or contributor to any advocacy group on either side of the gun control debate. Yet today, he has moved, by his own words quoted in The Denver Post, November 28, 1985, "beyond even the skeptic position." That is quite a shift. James Wright, a gun control advocate who received a grant to study the effectiveness of gun control laws from President Jimmy Carter's Justice Department, was surprised to discover, during the course of his research, that neither waiting periods, background checks, nor ANY gun control laws were effective in reducing violent crime. In an article titled "Second Thoughts About Gun Control", in the spring 1988 issue of "The Public Interest", Wright said, "I am now of the opinion that a compelling case for stricter gun control cannot be made."
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In a thesis titled "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense With a Gun", in the Northwestern University School of Law, Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, vol. 86, issue 1, 1995, Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz revealed some interesting facts.

Now, before anyone tries to dismiss the findings of this study as biased, because the study's author is pro gun ownership, let me remind you that the Dr. Kleck, who authored this study, is the same Dr. Kleck, who began his career as an opponent of private gun ownership.

Furthermore, criminologist Marvin E. Wolfgang, who has researched guns and violence for more than 25 years and is one of the most outspoken opponents of private gun ownership, after reading this study, praised the methodology that was used, in a paper titled "A Tribute to a View I Have Opposed," published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, vol. 86, Issue 1 (Fall 1995), p. 188.

In that article, Wolfgang begins by saying:

"I am as strong a gun-control advocate as can be found among the criminologists in this country. If I were Mustapha Mond of Brave New World, I would eliminate all guns from the civilian population and maybe even from the police."

Those are certainly not the views of your ordinary anti-gun type. This is a man who represents the ultimate in anti-gun philosophy. But to his credit as a researcher, he was not so proud that he would deny the excellent methodology employed by Kleck and Gertz. He went on to say:

"What troubles me is the article by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz. The reason I am troubled is that they have provided an almost clear-cut case of methodologically sound research in support of something I have theoretically opposed for years, namely, the use of a gun in defense against a criminal perpetrator... I have to admit my admiration for the care and caution expressed in this article and this research."

Wolfgang concludes by saying:

"The Kleck and Gertz study impresses me for the caution the authors exercise and the elaborate nuances they examine methodologically. I do not like their conclusions that having a gun can be useful, but I cannot fault their methodology. They have tried earnestly to meet all objections in advance and have done exceedingly well."

Principal among the facts that Wolfgang was disappointed to learn, is that Guns are used for self-defense between 2.1 Million and 2.5 Million times every year. The following facts from the Kleck/Gertz study, relate directly to this fact.


  • In the vast majority of those self-defense cases, the citizen will only brandish the gun or fire a warning shot.

  • In less than 8% of those self-defense cases will the citizen will even wound his attacker.

  • Over 1.9 million of those self-defense cases involve handguns.

  • As many as 500,000 of those self-defense cases occur away from home.

  • Almost 10% of those self-defense cases are women defending themselves against sexual assault or abuse.

  • This means that guns are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of law-abiding citizens than to take a life.

  • At an estimated 263 million US population, in 1995, when the study was released, it also means that an average of 1 out of every 105 to 125 people that you know will use a gun for self-defense every year.
Dr. Kleck also wrote in his book titled " Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America (Social Institutions and Social Change)" that burglars are more than three and a half times more likely to enter an occupied home in a gun control country than in the USA. Compare the 45% average rate of Great Britain, Canada and Netherlands with the 12.7% of the USA. He continued to point out that citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals every year as do police (1,527 to 606). In a related article titled, "Are We a Nation of Cowards'?" in the November 15, 1993 issue of Newsweek Magazine, George Will reported that police are more than 5 times more likely than a civilian to shoot an innocent person by mistake.

The Wall Street Journal reported, in an August 28, 1996 article titled, "More Guns, Less Violent Crime," that a University of Chicago study revealed that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5%, aggravated assaults by 7% and robbery by 3%. The most impressive single statement in the University of Chicago Study, which is an ongoing study, is the very first sentence of the Abstract on the first page.


"Using cross-sectional time series data for U.S. counties from 1977 to 1992, we find that allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes, without increasing accidental deaths." - University of Chicago Study (1st line of Abstract)


A 1979 Carter Justice Department study found that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32% were actually committed. That number dropped to only 3% when the woman was armed. That means that an unarmed woman is more than 10 times more likely to be raped than an armed woman. Think about it.

Since England passed its strict gun control laws, their previously low murder rate has almost caught up to that of the USA and according to a Reuters article on October 11, 1998 most other violent crime in England has passed the US crime rates. This is also supported by an October 1998 report of the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
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How about accidents? The National Safety Council Report titled, "What Are the Odds of Dying?" for 1998 reveals that you are almost twice as likely to die from natural environmental factors (1,521 deaths), such as injuries caused by animals, plants or exposure to the elements than from an accidental gunshot (866 deaths). Think about it. The same report shows that you are more likely to choke to death on a piece of food (1,147 deaths) or die from falling down stairs (1,389 deaths) as to die from an errant bullet. You are four times more likely to die in a fire (3,255 deaths) or drown (3,964 deaths). The simple fact is that there are many things that we take for granted in life that are much more dangerous than guns. In 1998, there were 43,501 motor vehicle deaths, 10,255 poisoning deaths, 3,228 deaths from complications or misadventures of surgical or medical care and 16,274 total falling deaths - maybe we should ban ladders.

Get this! In 1998, there were 723 persons killed by falling objects. Compare that to 866 gun related deaths. So, using the logic proposed by the anti-Second Amendment types, our lawmakers should require us to wear helmets at all times.
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The police are not required to protect you, as an individual! In fact, I challenge you to think of just one case where the police have actually prevented a crime. When you think about it, the actual job of the police is not to prevent crime, but to investigate crime, catch the perpetrator and bring the perpetrator to court - ALL after the fact.

Think about how the police work. They try to take the bad guys off of the street. How do they know who the bad guys are? They know, because the bad guys did something bad (past tense). So, by putting the bad guy in jail, you can argue that the police prevented potential crime, protecting the public at large. But the act that put the bad guy behind bars was a real crime, with real victims.

But, it is not the job of the police to protect individuals. That is a pretty powerful statement and deserves some support. There is, in fact, so much support for that statement that I could write a book on the subject. Fortunately, Richard W. Stevens has already done that. His very excellent book is "Dial 911 and Die." I encourage you to get the book and read it. Then, if you don't already own a gun, buy one and learn how to use it. Your life could very well depend upon it.
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Armed Citizens Make Fewer Mistakes Than Police Don't think that just because the police are trained in the use of firearms that they are less likely to kill an innocent person. A University of Chicago Study revealed that in 1993 approximately 700,000 police killed 330 innocent individuals, while approximately 250,000,000 private citizens only killed 30 innocent people. Do the math. That's a per capita rate for the police, of almost 4000 times higher than the population in general. OK, that is a little misleading. Let's just include the 80,000,000 gun owning citizens. Now the police are down to only a 1200 times higher accidental shooting rate than the gun-owning population in general.

That still sounds high. So let's look at it in a different light. According to a study by Newsweek magazine, only 2% of civilian shootings involve an innocent person being shot (not killed). The error rate for police is 11%. What this means is that you are more than 5 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen. But, when you consider that citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as do police every year, it means that, per capita, you are more than 11 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen.
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The Kleck study shows that police shoot and kill around 600 criminals each year. Yet the University of Chicago study shows that police killed 330 innocent individuals in 1993. That means that for every two criminals killed by police, one innocent citizen is killed by police. Although I have the greatest respect for the police and how they must respond under pressure, I think that I would much rather trust an armed populace.
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To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/20/2013 12:11:13 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573226
 
Armed San Antonio Homeowner Helps Capture 2 Armed Drug Store Robbers
February 20 2013






A man and a woman robber a San Antonio area CVS pharmacy and then fled the scene.

The male suspect ran into a home nearby. He was obviously not counting on encountering an armed homeowner.

The homeowner fired a shot at the suspect who was then quickly captured by police.

The female suspect was also captured nearby.

Another defensive gun use in which no one was shot or otherwise hurt.

gunssavelives.net



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/20/2013 12:16:48 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Respond to of 1573226
 
Vermont Resident Fires Shot, Scares of Knife Wielding Burglar
February 20 2013



A resident in Burlington, VT returned home after a walk to find a man armed with a knife burglarizing his home.

The resident, who was armed, scuffled with the intruder briefly before drawing a gun and firing a shot, which hit the floor of the apartment.

The intruder fled the scene once the shooting started.

Another successful defensive gun use in which no one was shot or hurt.

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/vermont-homeowner-fires-shot-scares-of-knife-wielding-burglar/

Everytime a citizen defends himself against a criminal, a Democrat (aka the Criminal party) loses and a Republican wins.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/20/2013 12:21:15 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573226
 
[Video] Dallas Homeowner Shoots and Kills Attempted Burglar
February 19 2013



A Dallas homeowner used deadly force to defend his home on Monday.

The homeowner heard a noise and when he went to investigate he found the would be intruder coming through a window of his home.

The homeowner, who was armed, fired at the suspect, hitting and killing him.

The suspect has a long criminal history and even his own mother wasn’t surprised to learn of her son’s demise.

“Yeah, it’s something he would do … Somebody called me and said my son got shot that’s the reason I’m standing here,” said the mother. “Somebody called her [her daughter-in-law] and told her he had got shot. She said, ‘Momma you need to sit down, they said BJ just got killed.’ That’s the reason I’m here.”

gunssavelives.net

One less vote for Democrats (aka the Criminal party). Everytime a citizen defends himself against a criminal, a Democrat loses and a Republican wins. That's why Democrats want to disarm the citizenry.



To: combjelly who wrote (697772)2/23/2013 4:06:59 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573226
 
HOUSTON –A 21-year-old man sprang into action to protect his family Thursday night when three suspects barged into their northwest Harris County home.

The young man was home with his mother and father in the 3900 block of Brook Garden when the armed men forced their way into the house around 8 p.m., according to Harris County Sheriff’s deputies.

The family was in the middle of baking a cake, when there was a knock at the door.

“I see a young boy and I think it is a friend of my son so I open it a little bit,” the father explained. “These guys push and out comes two more, they push me on the ground.”

After the father was down, the suspects went after the mother. That is when the son ran and got his dad’s gun. He opened fire and hit one of the suspects, who died in the back bedroom. The other two suspects fled the scene.

“I just hear a couple of times; boom, boom, boom. One young life is lost,” the dad said.

Deputies responding to the call spotted a vehicle carrying two men who matched the suspects’ descriptions and pulled it over. The men were taken into custody for questioning.

Deputies said they do not know why the suspects targeted this home.

“At this point, we don’t know what the motive is behind this home invasion, but they did force entry into the residence,” said Sgt. Greg Pinkins, Harris County Sheriff’s Office.

Neighbors said the son was just doing what he had to do.

“People can’t go breaking into people’s homes and not expect some sort of consequence," said Harry Moulder.

No charges were expected to be filed against the homeowner’s son.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/21-year-old-protects-family-kills-suspect-during-home-invasion-in-NW-Harris-County-192475271.html

Everytime a citizen successfully defends himself or herself from a criminal, a Democrat loses and a Republican wins.

Joaquin Rodriguez · Top Commenter · New Mexico State University

If Obama and his liberals had been able to get their way, he wouldn't have had a gun to protect himself and his family. Good going young man. One more thug off the streets. We'll get the others when they try again.

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Charleston Burks · Houston, Texas

I'm glad to see him and his family are okay. He prevented a potential tragedy.



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Sylvia A. Torres · Follow · The Woodlands, Texas

Homeowner - 1
Thugs - minus 1



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