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To: Spekulatius who wrote (50853)2/12/2013 9:17:39 AM
From: E_K_S  Respond to of 78753
 
Thank you for your comments. As a German company I knew you followed them. It seem to me that switching out some GE for LINDE would be a safe play. You get a smaller divided but a better growth candidate. LINDE's financials are better too. It's a bit of an effort going through their annual report as everything is reported in Euros and one has to make the conversions.

I typically do not invest in any foreign securities as my Broker really does not offer it (very high rates) and the financial are hard for me to review (if I can even find them). I do buy ADR's. LINDE is offered as an ADR under the symbol LNEGY.

EKS



To: Spekulatius who wrote (50853)2/12/2013 9:29:00 AM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78753
 
Industrial gas co's: I agree w/you guys. Not so much value stocks now. Good ltb&h stocks though.

I learned that after selling ARG several years ago at much lower prices than currently. Fortunately, I have kept all my few shares of APD purchased in '08 with adds in '09-'12 and mentions here along the way. Small amount of shares in total, but I'm grateful for it anyway.

Here's a recent article comparing several companies in the business, with the author making the case ARG is the best among them:

seekingalpha.com



To: Spekulatius who wrote (50853)2/13/2013 12:27:35 AM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78753
 
Here's one of the situations where I hesitate to post that I disagree with you guys, since most likely you all don't care. :)

Anyway, I disagree that they are good businesses. I looked at APD and PX (and LNEGY briefly). APD and PX have zero FCF for last year, high debt, low ROICs. Nothing good about that. And this is theoretically at one of the better years of the cycle.