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To: Alighieri who wrote (705206)	3/21/2013 3:50:23 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574050

I don't see the slightest objectivity in your position. You go and dig up a few media links based on total bullshit as "evidence" while totally ignoring the facts. Very little of the program has been implemented yet and most of what is going on right now is providers scrambling to figure out how they will continue to provide services to Medicare and Medicaid patients. And the truth is they won't and they cannot because they lose money on every such patient they see. My friend had a total shoulder replacement last week. He didn't spend even a single night in the hospital; in effect, this most invasive of procedures was handled on an outpatient basis. Now, that is some kind of "cost savings". Some would say that is "good", but he endured unimaginable pain that night because he had the benefit only of oral pain meds, which seemed to me to be ridiculous. Can you not at least TRY to be objective and look at the facts instead of the Huffington Post?

To: Alighieri who wrote (705206)	3/21/2013 8:36:40 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574050

Not much of a response, Al. Health care costs will continue to go up. There's little ObamaCare can or will do to fix that other than control the amount of compensation on the provider side of Medicare. That's the single-payer way of trying to control costs, except that it only works if we really do have single-payer. Tenchusatsu

To: Alighieri who wrote (705206)	3/24/2013 11:24:22 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1574050

>> I will remind you of this point the next time one of you naysayers lean on the CBO to peddle a point of your own. It is worth noting that CBO (and its predecessor) has consistently (with the exception of Part D) understated cost estimates by anywhere from a few hundred to a thousand plus percentage points. Part D was different because of its personal responsibility aspect which was, of course, removed by Obamacare. These forecasts are exceptionally difficult to do; however, at the very least, it ought to cause everyone to roll their eyes when CBO projections say costs will do come in at a particular level. In short, there is no precedent for CBO to be correct on these estimates, at all. Regardless of whether the point was peddled by Dems or Reps. It is also worth nothing that these health care initiatives, with the exception of Part D, have largely been of Democrat origin.