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To: KZAP who wrote (2843)12/4/1997 6:23:00 PM
From: TraderGreg  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 11708
 
I E-mailed Juan Dominguez , referred by Thu, who is a broker and has a lot of knowledge on short situations. I gave him the following definitions that I had posted earlier:

Covered shorting--Legal shorting against your own long position, also known as "shorting against the box". Wholesalers can do it with any type of stock; little folks can only if their stock is marginable.

Naked shorting(Legal variety)-Only do-able by wholesalers whereby
permission is granted by the long's broker to borrow street name shares. If the shareholder calls for their certs then the shorter has to cover.

Naked shorting(illegal variety)-When the wholesaler doesn't ask for
permission to borrow shares, but just shorts them as he sees them.
Often times this level of shorting can result in short positions exceeding
the level of the float.

I then asked him for his comments:

Yes, you have the correct definition for all three types of short
selling. The only way that illegal naked shorting can be defeated is
if a good majority of the shareholders of the official(legal) float call
their stock certificates. By good majority I mean at least 95%. If the
the official float is controlled by a small number of shareholders, it
makes life easier., however, if the float is made up of hundreds of
shareholders with an average holding of 10K shares or less, then it get
pretty hard to get all these shareholders to call their CERTS.

The SEC will not go after the company, they will go after the illegal
shorters, but only if they get enough complaints that cert. delivery is
slower that usual 4 weeks.

There are many legit NASDAQ and BB stocks that have been hammered by naked shorters in the hopes that they can create a "terminal short" whereby they can short the stock down to 0 and never have to cover or pay taxes.

Everybody chew on Juan's response and let's comment. Thanks to Juan for his advice and thanks Thu for the reference.

TraderGreg



To: KZAP who wrote (2843)12/4/1997 6:24:00 PM
From: Kincheloe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11708
 
?
Does anybody else see the two after hours trades?
One trade of 52k @ 1.44
One trade of 2k @ 1.09
This is exactly how much the cbs ticker changed after the bell.
However, Farsight time and sales do not show these trades.

Just curious

Mark